From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Menu commands to M-x history? Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:15:49 -0700 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <7432.1248236149@olgas.newt.com> References: <87skgqu2ce.fsf@olgas.newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248236172 25345 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2009 04:16:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 22 06:16:05 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MTTFJ-0006MO-Sa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:16:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40051 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTTFJ-0007FU-6H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:16:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTTFE-0007FG-Ax for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:15:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTTF9-0007Eo-RB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:15:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49391 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTTF9-0007El-P2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:15:51 -0400 Original-Received: from tassie.newt.com ([66.135.50.201]:57418) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTTF7-0006EH-I8; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:15:49 -0400 Original-Received: from olgas.newt.com (adsl-76-233-235-99.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.233.235.99]) by tassie.newt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07551A42C0; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by olgas.newt.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB44E28E67; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from olgas.newt.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgas.newt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C494C28E2C; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:15:49 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: Comments: In-reply-to Richard Stallman message dated "Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:43:21 -0400." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.2; GNU Emacs 22.2.1 X-Image-URL: http://www.newt.com/wohler/images/bill-diving.png Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112985 Archived-At: Richard Stallman wrote: > > Menu commands are all commands that can be started from M-x. I think > > they should be added to M-x history. > > This seems like a good idea. Whether a command is run with M-x, a menu > item, or a button, the semantics should be identical. > > The only "M-x history" in Emacs is the history list used for reading > the argument of M-x. That should only be used for arguments that you > enter in the M-x command. > > Keyboard keys also run commands that you could run with M-x, but > putting their names in the M-x history list would not be consistent or > useful. It is the same for menu-run commands. Yes, that is true. Perhaps a better way of learning what command is on a button or menu item is to use help such as `M-x help RET k RET'. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD