From: JD Smith <jdtsmith@gmail.com>
To: Eval EXEC <execvy@gmail.com>, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Emacs Master d277123f4bf] pixel-scroll-precision-scroll-up-page feels pause, but pixel-scroll-precision-scroll-down-page is smooth
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 14:14:35 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <73E3A3FA-A1AB-40EB-87B9-80BB8902682A@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34bff610-732e-4c52-9574-35a4bab8223d@gmail.com>
> On Sep 3, 2024, at 5:56 AM, Eval EXEC <execvy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Then I open a rust project.
>
> use touchpad to scroll up and down. When I use touchpad to `triple-wheel-up`, I feel very lag and pause.
>
> When I `triple-wheel-down`, it's very smooth.
>
>
> Why `pixel-scroll-precision-scroll-up-page` is very lag and pause, but `pixel-scroll-precision-scroll-down-page` is very smooth?
This asymmetry is inherent to vscroll, which, although very fast, is only available "below" the displayed screen contents. To quote the FAQ of my ultra-scroll-mac[1] package:
• Scrolling asymmetry:
• vscroll is purely one-sided: you can only access a vscroll area beneath the current window view; there is no negative vscroll.
• Unlike window-start, window-end does not get updated promptly between redisplays and cannot always be trusted.
• For these two reasons, smooth scrolling up and scrolling down are not symmetric with each other (and will likely never be). You need different approaches for each.
• If the two approaches for scrolling up and down perform quite differently, the user will feel this difference.
The algorithms employed in ultra-scroll-mac are (in my testing) measurably faster than the ones in pixel-scroll-precision (from which it was inspired), although up is still slower than down. They also enable smooth scrolling past images which are taller than the window. See the functions `ultra-scroll-mac-up/down'.
Unfortunately this package only works on the Carbon emacs-mac port, which exposes rich scroll events with pixel-level delta data. But the core scroll algorithms could potentially be adapted to pixel-scroll-precision-mode, and I'd be happy to contribute them if anyone takes this up. I have also wondered whether other systems like Linux/GTK have standard APIs for delivering high-speed touchpad events, which would allow pixel-scroll-precision to get out of the business of simulating these.
[1] https://github.com/jdtsmith/ultra-scroll-mac
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-03 9:56 [Emacs Master d277123f4bf] pixel-scroll-precision-scroll-up-page feels pause, but pixel-scroll-precision-scroll-down-page is smooth Eval EXEC
2024-09-03 18:14 ` JD Smith [this message]
2024-09-04 1:13 ` Po Lu
2024-09-04 1:56 ` JD Smith
2024-09-04 2:32 ` Po Lu
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