From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francis Belliveau Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Keeping up; was Another Emacs incompatibility Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:25:36 -0400 Message-ID: <73D18DCC-A1A2-47B4-97BB-FA12FBAA5080@comcast.net> References: <0554D751-5F78-47EA-BFAE-7D2CD2A01957@comcast.net> <877dtprr2l.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2091"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 24 15:26:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kACUL-0000Pi-8D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:26:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kACUK-0006lR-B2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:26:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53178) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kACU1-0006jl-CD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:25:57 -0400 Original-Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net ([2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:41]:48296) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kACTy-0002Vj-FZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 09:25:56 -0400 Original-Received: from resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.107]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id ABgMkEr7ZL8duACTvk5qMj; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:25:52 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=20190202a; t=1598275552; bh=6Z8tjV70nm4iaBdi/RzDeOlqmhzPTgjqnRcYY5G+JVE=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=VO5xS8zaMGHuROur+GvG+42OqCbl6UW8dC8RfgVu3cqOpzh++o65IyTZuD9k7aEjS ElySwIDlSDNgz+jh8Rvow8yWWaJq6wP9j4+oEveSeegUK2qlALPAc8i5aXjvIDhXEE 7R3hwyD+jEV8k00J6aiFoBI5pBYgvKij96zPojhbps3uvulRyLsrXCSH/NnWuv7Q0C CrKrSJuuymHrPWb3kOSmxS4h5vKlH+/7f//JYDk1cDdhkhb6r44OxNNdf6C57NlQ+p uiK7WKlSJY8cbizgN/tKe9fCNVTQEho8vBPEpWa/CFOAQS20Z2LknpNMftiGJ71tYJ IvZDk3bedn3SA== Original-Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([73.119.168.97]) by resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPSA id ACTgkQRcutMwyACThkPilf; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 13:25:38 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduiedruddukedgfedvucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuvehomhgtrghsthdqtfgvshhipdfqfgfvpdfpqffurfetoffkrfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpegtggfuhfgjfffgkfhfvffosehtqhhmtdhhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpefhrhgrnhgtihhsuceuvghllhhivhgvrghuuceofhdrsggvlhhlihhvvggruhestghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepjeelleduledtvdeuheeiffelueefleefkeffvefhvefgtdefleduveffvdefhfdvnecukfhppeejfedrudduledrudeikedrleejnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghloheplgduledvrdduieekrddurddutdehngdpihhnvghtpeejfedrudduledrudeikedrleejpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepfhdrsggvlhhlihhvvggruhestghomhgtrghsthdrnhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopehofhhvseifrghnrgguohhordgvshdprhgtphhtthhopehhvghlphdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrgh X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=0.00;st=legit In-Reply-To: <877dtprr2l.fsf@telefonica.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:41; envelope-from=f.belliveau@comcast.net; helo=resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/24 09:25:52 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:123742 Archived-At: Seems to me that was the first thing that I tried. =20 Unfortunately, the OS is in charge at that point and it is looking for a = GUI feature triggered by C-g rather than passing it inside. Once the GUI level of the OS, usually Linux via ssh in my case, things = seem to get stuck in some mode where only a mouse-click will fix the = problem. Actually that means at least two layers of OS in are in the = mix. I end up trying innocuous things like minimize, clicking inside the = region, etc. I eventually wake things up. Maybe C-g after clicking = inside the region will work. The next time this happens I will try and not the entire sequence I used = to eventually untangle myself. It happens seldom enough now that I am = working mostly remotely, since I encounter fewer machines that do not = have my customizations installed. > On Aug 23, 2020, at 17:27, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: >=20 > Francis Belliveau writes: >=20 >> Now let me ask a question that I have trouble with for a long time. = My >> customizations turn off the menus and tool-bars because they take up >> valuable screen-space and I hate leaving the keyboard to use them. >> However, I often end up on a machine where my custom stuff does not >> exist and accidentally change the focus within emacs to a menu while >> moving focus between windows. How do I get emacs to focus back on the >> buffer so that I can go back to typing?I generally fight my way out = of >> the problem, but I have yet to find a magic combination that I can >> remember to use next time >=20 > If the menu is Emacs' menu, C-g should do the trick.