From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Chong Yidong'" <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
"'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 8492@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Reuben Thomas' <rrt@sc3d.org>
Subject: bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion?
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:43:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <736C4CB8BF7044B7AF21D85595F179A2@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oc3vwmi9.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
> > TAB can do completion if you (setq tab-always-indent 'complete).
>
> I tried this out some time ago, but found it unsatisfactory. The
> problem was that I sometimes spuriously triggered completion
> when I only intended to indent, because the current line happened
> to be correctly indented. It is often difficult to tell by eye
> whether a line is already indented.
Amen. Another case of DWIM making the user work harder, forcing her to try to
second-guess it and figure out whether it will in fact DTRT in the current
context. As I said:
>> Keep it simple. Find a key or let users find their own key
>> for a simple, straightforward command (i.e., that does only
>> what M-TAB does currently). Forget about combining 36
>> different behaviors on the same key.
...
>> But please do not redesign the behavior to become hydra-headed
>> so it tries to adapt to multiple contexts, just because you
>> cannot think of a good default key. That makes little sense.
>>
>> And TAB, in particular, is *not* "the way forward for this".
>> If ever there was a key *not* to double-up on for this (triple?
>> quadruple? pentuple?), TAB is it. It's just about the poorest
>> choice possible here.
Simple, straightforward commands/keys give the user control (not the clever
programmer).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-24 19:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-13 17:26 bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion? Reuben Thomas
2011-04-15 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-15 22:53 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-15 23:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-19 12:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-19 13:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-19 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-19 18:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-24 18:08 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-24 19:43 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2011-04-24 19:55 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-19 10:52 ` Andrew W. Nosenko
2011-04-19 12:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-20 11:54 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-20 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-20 13:22 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-20 14:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-20 14:49 ` Sven Joachim
2011-04-20 16:41 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-04-20 17:11 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-04-20 18:28 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-04-20 22:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 0:13 ` Sean Sieger
2011-04-21 6:02 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-04-20 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-20 22:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-20 21:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-20 14:07 ` Deniz Dogan
2011-04-20 15:49 ` Drew Adams
2011-04-20 18:28 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-20 22:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-20 22:49 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-20 21:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-20 22:49 ` Drew Adams
2011-04-20 22:51 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-21 12:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 14:13 ` Drew Adams
2011-04-21 18:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 19:34 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-21 19:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 20:14 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-21 20:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 21:08 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-22 13:47 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 17:33 ` Reuben Thomas
2011-04-22 18:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 21:01 ` Sean Sieger
2011-04-22 21:09 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 20:44 ` Sean Sieger
2021-10-21 19:44 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 19:45 ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-10-21 20:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-22 6:30 ` Phil Sainty
2021-10-22 8:12 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-04-29 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 13:22 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-29 13:25 ` Reuben Thomas via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-04-29 13:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 15:14 ` Drew Adams
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