From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scratch/eldoc-xref-project-gnu-elpa-core-packages b1631cd: Turn Eldoc, Xref and Project into GNU ELPA :core packages Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 02:25:39 +0300 Message-ID: <7335ba69-8555-5c3f-772c-0af20b0e5a8b@yandex.ru> References: <20200511214134.32634.30981@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200511214135.F14AF20A23@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <54168518-e95e-4eaa-0227-b51466d86cb2@yandex.ru> <87ftc6f7ex.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="63355"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 12 01:26:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYHoS-000GPV-KZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 01:26:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46004 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYHoR-0000Ku-Kq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 19:26:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYHnt-0007xf-Bc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 19:25:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x432.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::432]:42345) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYHns-0007am-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 19:25:44 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x432.google.com with SMTP id s8so13079759wrt.9 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 16:25:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VYEGq89mf/rgqX764EzXcRj3bTfW1/XoInvA+tAP+sU=; b=HtW9OzhrCIMZc/NUmNCwkWnld/G/EbQ7CBX0Wd/1U0i6UO9jj3Os2VBeA99X9P4S5L yzHHHlOXW/kOr+Jq6nAWFSrj4gXm+SZ3HLxMez67mHMP3QeAxCaAR9xqWIpjCQvUK8jL H2Sm/hxTTwesZN9EvE+Qm7QeBBouZ7UZ5mrmkN9AneGVHmd/gEqSpvZ9TqBbhucmvneI VdEPlpD0kmWjbro9Wj4f0mI6IunvJphXE1gJdfB8+4TMvZ1Xcf1pMwpz9Ip+59fdHKAe IBlk6b59cvQ0sNwD+nmfzaTP5A9XHj/y022FIw+ur0DqYMAaYSDITRXK150oLWX4w79m M2wQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VYEGq89mf/rgqX764EzXcRj3bTfW1/XoInvA+tAP+sU=; b=pf5/rQHxTByVn0ysAIUPdqxDCEwoZ53ZJgRdXhpBaqJvr9qm23F0KmyZpmf5mqgrcK /+axl+G+D/0j3hkT2NckA+PFSdCFgc8Gh2FCl903wBvg3ydb0VQr7UKJcvnv6mvMcsPq DZIQVUq5yQ/hqX3M4geJJNWnHz/2HzeiTDkNNCYAPAZH0cK7E6+gaEhazpGf0ttG4OkG H9m67bxFQbRuQnmG/bb8HfJofZJtXBmJAp54+CYizedi4NyHhlPHipDXKSXLYr/4uEGG p+iVR6seOkFl+rAwC+ly3w8PkEp+EeqKYiW1JtVP9Q5O8PYxYCo1LQDvNTkSvXxEro66 VDTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubadI/YqpWuEhhflA0P243jozpbuNzYsrN6bgjXRGy4zOCVxnrZ l4ucxeyuH/LHKTEQz7ItVGfibYxx X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKU7r2HF5/sfk6yec4WT2qKCDpf5g0SAjYeEyehxtgBOho67tNR7ADYgxs52tsOSSzITG9bOA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:f00e:: with SMTP id j14mr15207427wro.252.1589239541544; Mon, 11 May 2020 16:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.3] ([66.205.73.129]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id w15sm3901031wmi.35.2020.05.11.16.25.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 May 2020 16:25:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::432; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x432.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249907 Archived-At: On 12.05.2020 02:17, Stefan Monnier wrote: > IIUC a significant part of project's functionality works fine without > xref, so you could consider that project does not Package-Require > `xref`. I don't know if that's true: project--files-in-directory is used a lot. For example, in the default impl of project-files (used to "transient" projects, as well as arbitrary user-defined projects that don't create their own implementation). xref.el could be used without project.el, though (only the default xref-backend-references impl uses it, that code is old, and we could even make a point not to change it much in the future).