From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Bingham, Jay" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Understanding Emacs and Tabs Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:49:29 -0500 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <72A87F7160C0994D8C5A36E2FDC227F5059CFA81@txnexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053381170 29189 80.91.224.249 (19 May 2003 21:52:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 21:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 19 23:52:48 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19HsYq-0007aV-00 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 23:52:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Hs2P-0001yG-09 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 17:19:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19HrVK-0002Lo-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 16:45:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Hqye-0004Hz-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 16:11:24 -0400 Original-Received: from zcamail03.zca.compaq.com ([161.114.32.103]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Hqda-0000Hw-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:49:34 -0400 Original-Received: from cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.105.250.94]) by zcamail03.zca.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4952FA297; Mon, 19 May 2003 12:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from txnexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.74.7.244]) by cacexg11.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6673); Mon, 19 May 2003 12:49:31 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Understanding Emacs and Tabs Thread-Index: AcMeLhaLX7AHPeH3S3ykavgL4ceEhwADkJug Original-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kai_Gro=DFjohann?= X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 May 2003 19:49:31.0011 (UTC) FILETIME=[C39CC530:01C31E3F] X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9898 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9898 On: Monday, May 19, 2003 11:38 AM Kai Gro=DFjohann wrote: >Oh, there's someone being very careful. I hope I can stand a healthy >dose of criticism :-) Point taken, I hope. Yes, I was trying not to start a running battle, but the comment was = true, I really have learned a lot from you. >I think you meant to say disabled. The default for indent-tabs-mode >is to be enabled. I said what I meant to say, but my statement was incorrect due to a lack = of comprehension on my part. >Okay, so the full story is this: in the default Emacs configuration, >M-i will insert a tab up to the 120th column in a line. And this is >very close to always. > >And there are two variables that come into play: the variable >indent-tabs-mode and the variable tab-stop-list. Now I understand. And now that I realize that you are talking about a = variable, not a mode (when I saw the -mode at the end of the name I just = jumped to the conclusion that indent-tabs-mode was a function that = enabled a "mode"), I see that I do indeed have indent-tabs-mode set to t = in my environment and that my tab-stop-list's value is a list of numbers = that ends at 120. >Yeah, maybe I'm trying to be too exact. Maybe an introduction doesn't >need to be so exact. It was just a knee-jerk reaction on my side -- >when somebody says `always' I'll answer, `but not when the full moon >shines through the window and you're sitting with your back to the >door'. > >It's probably silly. I'm sorry. Apology accepted, although it was not necessary and I am glad that you = had a knee-jerk reaction because once again you have enlightened me. Thanks, -_ J_) C_)ingham . HP - NonStop Austin Software & Services - Software Quality = Assurance . Austin, TX . "Language is the apparel in which your thoughts parade in public. . Never clothe them in vulgar and shoddy attire." -Dr. George W. = Crane-