Two tramp questions

Two tramp questions

[henry atting]

Hi,

I use tramp to edit remote or root files. Although I've read
tramp works well with ido-mode I don't understand it. If ido (or
icicles) is enabled the moment I start typing '/ssh:...'  into
the the minibuffer a tramp process is started and dies right
away. No problem if both are disabled. Usually I simply evaluate
a form like this in a buffer (find-file
"/ssh:user@remote:/home/user") which spares me to disable/enable
both modes.

Another question: How can I start tramps ssh with X forwarding
(with the -X option)?


henry

Re: Two tramp questions

[Joel J. Adamson]

henry atting <henry@literaturlatenight.de> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I use tramp to edit remote or root files. Although I've read
> tramp works well with ido-mode I don't understand it. If ido (or
> icicles) is enabled the moment I start typing '/ssh:...'  into
> the the minibuffer a tramp process is started and dies right
> away.

This is why I started using iswitchb mode instead.  The processes
wouldn't die, on the other hand they would be going and tie up the
entire Emacs session.  That was worse ;)  iswitchb-mode works really
well: it does not enforce completion in situations like this, only on
buffers.  I found the file-finding of icicles and ido-mode to just
slow me down.

Joel

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RE: Two tramp questions

[Drew Adams]

> > I use tramp to edit remote or root files. Although I've read
> > tramp works well with ido-mode I don't understand it. If ido (or
> > icicles) is enabled the moment I start typing '/ssh:...'  into
> > the the minibuffer a tramp process is started and dies right
> > away.
>
> This is why I started using iswitchb mode instead.  The processes
> wouldn't die, on the other hand they would be going and tie up the
> entire Emacs session.  That was worse ;)  iswitchb-mode works really
> well: it does not enforce completion in situations like this, only on
> buffers.  I found the file-finding of icicles and ido-mode to just
> slow me down.

In response to a specific bug report, the Tramp developer (Michael Albinus)
and I recently worked on making Tramp and Icicles play well together. Ido
also has a good deal of code that tries to make it get along well with
Tramp.

It is always better to report a specific bug than to ignore a problem you
encounter. Even if you don't really care whether something works, others
might benefit from reporting the problem. Please try the latest version of
Icicles and let me know if you encounter a problem with Tramp. Thx.

Re: Two tramp questions

[henry atting]

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> > I use tramp to edit remote or root files. Although I've read
>> > tramp works well with ido-mode I don't understand it. If ido (or
>> > icicles) is enabled the moment I start typing '/ssh:...'  into
>> > the the minibuffer a tramp process is started and dies right
>> > away.
>>
>> This is why I started using iswitchb mode instead.  The processes
>> wouldn't die, on the other hand they would be going and tie up the
>> entire Emacs session.  That was worse ;)  iswitchb-mode works really
>> well: it does not enforce completion in situations like this, only on
>> buffers.  I found the file-finding of icicles and ido-mode to just
>> slow me down.
>
> In response to a specific bug report, the Tramp developer (Michael Albinus)
> and I recently worked on making Tramp and Icicles play well together. Ido
> also has a good deal of code that tries to make it get along well with
> Tramp.
>
> It is always better to report a specific bug than to ignore a problem you
> encounter. Even if you don't really care whether something works, others
> might benefit from reporting the problem. Please try the latest version of
> Icicles and let me know if you encounter a problem with Tramp. Thx.

I installed the latest version and it works fine. Great!

Thanks
henry

Re: Two tramp questions

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 24.10.2007 um 16:58 schrieb henry atting:

> Another question: How can I start tramps ssh with X forwarding
> (with the -X option)?

This enables basic X11 forwarding. -Y would enable trusted  
forwarding, i.e. you won't need to set up anything else in X11  
authenticity management.

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   Pete

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RE: Two tramp questions

[Drew Adams]

> >> > I use tramp to edit remote or root files. Although I've read
> >> > tramp works well with ido-mode I don't understand it. If ido (or
> >> > icicles) is enabled the moment I start typing '/ssh:...'  into
> >> > the the minibuffer a tramp process is started and dies right
> >> > away.
> >>
> >> This is why I started using iswitchb mode instead.  The processes
> >> wouldn't die, on the other hand they would be going and tie up the
> >> entire Emacs session.  That was worse ;)  iswitchb-mode works really
> >> well: it does not enforce completion in situations like this, only on
> >> buffers.  I found the file-finding of icicles and ido-mode to just
> >> slow me down.
> >
> > In response to a specific bug report, the Tramp developer
> > (Michael Albinus) and I recently worked on making Tramp and
> > Icicles play well together. Ido also has a good deal of code
> > that tries to make it get along well with Tramp.
> >
> > It is always better to report a specific bug than to ignore a
> > problem you encounter. Even if you don't really care whether
> > something works, others might benefit from reporting the
> > problem. Please try the latest version of
> > Icicles and let me know if you encounter a problem with Tramp. Thx.
>
> I installed the latest version and it works fine. Great!

Good to hear; thanks for reporting back.

Tramp, Icicles, Ido, etc. are non-trivial. The developers rely on bug
reports to know about problems that arise. Don't hesitate to report things
that don't seem to work well.