From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:21:13 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <721b8fb1-5672-778e-b68f-a68b53308f55@cs.ucla.edu> References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480364554 26775 195.159.176.226 (28 Nov 2016 20:22:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:22:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Daniel Colascione Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 28 21:22:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSRZ-0005wE-MN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:22:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32884 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSRd-0000YX-5x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:22:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41960) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSQS-00008C-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:21:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSQS-0003Fl-08 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:21:20 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:37672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cBSQN-0003Cn-Uy; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:21:16 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62FB1600BB; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:21:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 83jDYlihM7hq; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:21:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D441600BC; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:21:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id FslpLPgaZmtj; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:21:13 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF8691600BA; Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:21:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209688 Archived-At: On 11/28/2016 12:12 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think this is a wrong direction If the proposed dumper works reliably and quickly and portably, Emacs should be in a significantly better place than it is now. So in that sense this is not the wrong direction. Perhaps you're right and making lread faster would work better. However, nobody has implemented that. If someone does implement it we can switch to it later, regardless of whether we use the proposed dumper in the meantime.