From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The name gnus-cloud.el Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:27:29 -0800 Message-ID: <7213576f-23d1-8d2d-d155-3d552a814c3b@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87374jd66s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87bmj6dda0.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87vahe911g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87374id7jy.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <877ett8g7k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87a7yn7tqp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878te75xa1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ind6l2tt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877etklvsa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83y3m0pv8u.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8snpew2.fsf@gnu.org> <83wp1gm2c8.fsf@gnu.org> <83k1xelgcp.fsf@gnu.org> <83po75jxiv.fsf@gnu.org> <83tvweiyfy.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4DD36678A7555A1560446DF8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514240757 22620 195.159.176.226 (25 Dec 2017 22:25:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 22:25:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 25 23:25:52 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eTbBr-00059Q-Gw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 23:25:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38638 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTbDq-0007iS-4m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 17:27:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTbDj-0007hu-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 17:27:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTbDi-0008C0-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 17:27:43 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:57222) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eTbDe-00080a-FV; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 17:27:38 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE2916142A; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:27:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id aaMTUBT3iKMK; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:27:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DCE161543; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:27:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ypMxV65Xd_LH; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:27:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.104] (unknown [47.154.30.119]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81CF2161388; Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:27:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83tvweiyfy.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221411 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4DD36678A7555A1560446DF8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Assuming we leave the name alone, we can add a brief comment saying that it's a parody and is not intended to implement "cloud computing". The comment can point to the Gnu page explaining why "cloud computing" is normally an unwise choice of phrase. I installed the attached to try to do this. I hope this patch helps to address qualms about using the name gnus-cloud as a joke. --------------4DD36678A7555A1560446DF8 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="0001-Say-that-gnus-cloud-is-a-parody-name.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="0001-Say-that-gnus-cloud-is-a-parody-name.patch" >From dc15a04354dac5601e17d50dc90411e5de2ecc76 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Paul Eggert Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 14:19:37 -0800 Subject: [PATCH] Say that "gnus-cloud" is a parody name --- doc/misc/gnus.texi | 5 ++++- lisp/gnus/gnus-cloud.el | 4 ++++ 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/misc/gnus.texi b/doc/misc/gnus.texi index 318f510588..76d83163c2 100644 --- a/doc/misc/gnus.texi +++ b/doc/misc/gnus.texi @@ -26197,7 +26197,10 @@ The Gnus Cloud The Gnus Cloud package stores the marks, plus any files you choose, on an IMAP server in a special folder. It's like a -DropTorrentSyncBoxOakTree(TM). +DropTorrentSyncBoxOakTree(TM).@footnote{The name ``Gnus Cloud'' +parodizes but otherwise has little to do with ``cloud computing'', a +@url{https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#CloudComputing, +misleading term normally best avoided}.} @menu * Gnus Cloud Setup:: diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-cloud.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-cloud.el index 34d54ec3ca..6b64e40181 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-cloud.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-cloud.el @@ -22,6 +22,10 @@ ;;; Commentary: +;; The name gnus-cloud parodizes but otherwise has little to do with +;; "cloud computing", a misleading term normally best avoided. See: +;; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#CloudComputing + ;;; Code: (eval-when-compile (require 'cl)) -- 2.14.1 --------------4DD36678A7555A1560446DF8--