From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: RE: New EmacsWiki theme v2 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:47:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <71c23231-b461-4eb6-81ff-c6d84ba4f9ce@default> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1453787271 16753 80.91.229.3 (26 Jan 2016 05:47:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 05:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, John Wiegley To: Yuri Khan , Brian Burns Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 26 06:47:34 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aNwTV-00035b-OD for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 06:47:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42026 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aNwTR-0006vd-Hs for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 00:47:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aNwTP-0006tI-0a for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 00:47:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aNwTK-0004GO-03 for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 00:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:51257) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aNwTJ-0004G9-Oj; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 00:47:21 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u0Q5lIPH021945 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 26 Jan 2016 05:47:18 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u0Q5lIwF026668 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 26 Jan 2016 05:47:18 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u0Q5lHJx030931; Tue, 26 Jan 2016 05:47:18 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.tangents:101 Archived-At: > > Yeah, I searched through all the Google Fonts to try to find a good ser= if > > font but they all seemed either too light or too heavy, so ended up jus= t > > using Garamond and URW Palladio L - the Garamond was a bit light but I > > kind of got used to it. >=20 > Why do you even want to specify a font for body text? >=20 > The user already has one favorite serif font, one favorite sans-serif > font, and one favorite monospaced font, and has them configured in > their browser preferences. Any change from that will lead to a > decrease in legibility for that particular user. >=20 > (Overriding fonts for headings is okay. But very sparingly.) +1, for respecting a user's choice (browser settings/preferences). On the other hand, choosing a particular style for using the wiki is also a user choice. This is also why I think that such a choice (for a style/CSS) should be opt-in, with the default being vanilla HTML. Instead, the current default appearance is a particular CSS style. But at least users do have a choice of styles, including one that is pretty much vanilla HTML.