From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Crappyness of Emacs Version 24.5.1 defadvice Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 07:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <719bf37d-6fdf-4950-a687-f2a3c83488e6@default> References: <51b6ce57-51f6-43b9-9ad0-20540a877dca@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467123886 23813 80.91.229.3 (28 Jun 2016 14:24:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:24:46 +0000 (UTC) To: Davin Pearson , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 28 16:24:34 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bHtwG-0001pm-Qq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:24:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37071 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bHtwC-0000Jb-TU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:24:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54113) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bHttk-00076T-LM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:21:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bHtte-0005QF-KD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:21:55 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:45787) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bHtte-0005Pr-Bc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 10:21:50 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u5SELfcO007841 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:21:42 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u5SELffv006155 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:21:41 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u5SELetG025126; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 14:21:41 GMT In-Reply-To: <51b6ce57-51f6-43b9-9ad0-20540a877dca@googlegroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110642 Archived-At: > > The old behavior is preferable so I know which file the advice > > is coming from. >=20 > Could someone tell me how to get the old behavior back? http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D14734 ("REGRESSION: defadvice broken wrt doc strings (C-h f)") http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D14070 ("incorrect doc from `C-h f' when use `defadvice' with `before'") This post by Stefan provides the rationale behind the new advice system. (You might want to read the rest of the thread too.) http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D16402#31 ("Document nadvice.el stuff in Elisp manual before Emacs 24.4")