From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4981: C-l during query-replace Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:24:33 -0800 Message-ID: <713ECE6EFF3F4F51A45EBD56E1076DD1@us.oracle.com> References: <200911200016.nAK0Gxf5005670@godzilla.ics.uci.edu><873a49ad0f.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87fx7w7v6p.fsf@mail.jurta.org><200911300629.nAU6Txdn009909@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87tywcqe94.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 4981@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259606841 26823 80.91.229.12 (30 Nov 2009 18:47:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Dan Nicolaescu' To: "'Juri Linkov'" , <4981@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>, "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 30 19:47:13 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NFBHE-00048D-PU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:47:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57398 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFBHE-0007uw-Gl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:47:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFALT-0006hU-BF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:47:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NFALO-0006g0-Iw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37468 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NFALO-0006fs-DS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:45297) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NFALN-0007Fg-VD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:47:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAUHlNPu007116; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:47:23 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAUHU4UW005620; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:30:04 -0800 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:30:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4981 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4981-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4981.12596018875157 (code B ref 4981); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4981) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 30 Nov 2009 17:24:47 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from rgminet12.oracle.com (rcsinet12.oracle.com [148.87.113.124]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAUHOjDq005154 for <4981@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:24:46 -0800 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAUHOVuv030020 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:24:32 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id nAUFRf1A006966; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:24:41 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt012.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 687483871259601874; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:24:34 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:24:33 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87tywcqe94.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Thread-Index: Acpx4AvqlHaEMpx0TPK8Sbcc870sgQAAKdFQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4B13FFD4.0156:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:47:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:33077 Archived-At: > >> Thanks for fixing this. Are you sure that the new > >> `recenter-positions' is needed? Given that there > >> are 3 choices, it's easy to cycle through > >> them, so adding yet another defcustom that would be use by > >> a very small number of users does not seem justified (IMHO). > > > > I agree that it's overengineering. > > I think what is overengineering is adding recenter-top-bottom > in the first place. It imposes the arbitrary fixed cycling order > on users with no hope to customize such fundamental feature as > recentering. `recenter-positions' mitigates this problem in the true > Emacs way as the *customizable* editor. As the one originally responsible for `recenter-top-bottom', let me chime in. ;-) 1. Just as with `recenter', a `recenter-top-bottom' user can always provide a prefix arg to get the exact behavior wanted. It imposes nothing more than `recenter' imposed. 2. The fact that we seem to be extending the use of this to other areas indicates that it has proved to be an improvement wrt `recenter'. 3. I have no objection to user's being able, via an option, to add more cycle points and define their positions. That's not overengineering, IMO. I think the default should be what `recenter-top-bottom' defined: 3 cycle points, top, center, bottom. - Drew