From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Please explain the FSF copyright assignment thing
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 11:20:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7121c12e-29df-8710-9357-bc9be078804a@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1dXfim-0001vC-Ag@fencepost.gnu.org>
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On 19.07.2017 05:32, Richard Stallman wrote:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
> > Enforced freedom? nobody there was obligated to benefit from freedom.
> > What was enforced was the obligation for Cisco to transfer to their
> > clients the freedom they decided to enjoy.
>
> You stated that very well.
>
> The purpose of copyleft is to defend freedom for all users of our
> software. To defend their freedom requires preventing middlemen
> (Cisco in that case) from stripping off the freedom when they
> redistribute the software to others.
>
> In other words, when we distribute Emacs to A,
> and A redistributes Emacs to B, C and D, copyleft protects
> the freedom of B, C and D by requiring
> A to pass along Emacs to them with the full four freedoms.
>
Are two major issues with that idea.
1) the body of enforcement
2) the probability of involuntary license violations
For the latter: it looks like distributions of Emacs itself violated the
GPL, right?
The reason is simple: With growing complexity it will be probable, that
binaries and sources differ at some point.
Than the distributor risks to be at the mercy of the owner.
Now if a violation occurs, who will be the judge?: The very kind of
institutions which otherwise found water-boarding a legal thing. Can't
see how such a proceeding will match freedom.
Whilst Emacs itself remains an excellent tool.
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2017-07-13 17:16 ` Please explain the FSF copyright assignment thing Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 17:49 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-07-13 18:06 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 18:25 ` John Yates
2017-07-13 18:32 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 18:36 ` Karl Fogel
2017-07-13 18:48 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 19:08 ` Karl Fogel
2017-07-13 19:11 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 19:12 ` Paul Eggert
2017-07-13 19:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-07-14 5:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-13 19:12 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-13 19:23 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 19:31 ` Richard Copley
2017-07-13 19:56 ` Filipe Silva
2017-07-13 20:07 ` Richard Copley
2017-07-15 1:36 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-15 1:36 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 20:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-14 10:12 ` Yuri Khan
2017-07-14 12:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-07-18 6:16 ` Andreas Röhler
2017-07-18 7:53 ` Paul Eggert
2017-07-18 17:04 ` Andreas Röhler
2017-07-18 17:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-07-19 3:32 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-19 9:20 ` Andreas Röhler [this message]
2017-07-19 11:56 ` tomas
2017-07-19 14:34 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-14 1:20 ` Richard Stallman
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