From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Dave Pawson" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs documentation. Was My emacs was upgraded and I am a novice again Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:55:42 +0100 Message-ID: <711a73df0709230755k63466b21lae2e8eaacf76125e@mail.gmail.com> References: <711a73df0709230253p1d125c13qede773d03c75ad21@mail.gmail.com> <87hcllbppf.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <85ejgppmun.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190559374 19127 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2007 14:56:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:56:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 23 16:56:08 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZSsQ-0002kD-Lw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:56:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZSsN-0006XT-Ds for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZSs5-0006VC-Q5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:55:45 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZSs4-0006Rl-4b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:55:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZSs3-0006RM-Pm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:55:43 -0400 Original-Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.185]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZSs3-0007pD-Bg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:55:43 -0400 Original-Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c27so1119660rvf for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:55:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0ISvO3PombU4qdQqf0S7d1lzfCn2SlssRJaYkvbg7F8=; b=rYFiRnJWCJS6pybZuf4KGX+sevEC6DvQIxkkjjOEsuR6caMdb/JkwA7TASYfgU5y29ZPgZ5U+RZCzaJ2FQp/8thwa+gaPt6zqe9G0az+N7V+BnBhSTRB0ZQuqeHyvzNfANaapTbkb1XxpCYJMazDwuRjyI9IvxD+V8Bckg6Udyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pXSbfAenR+WoJTDfjp7vyJ3bI0d5P8OgT/Z8qvvtvFdkrOi4cvEKFCxZGbr26JdpHFCpF9Uvyu3PjTa9oavtWRltH1dRZN00Zik8XIQAtfxYF+vLuE7P9KTdpmXNxHgjSYy3bDQ/IwLxh1KM+Tc8AHZQAJxrHLnS9M5x+iYVLg8= Original-Received: by 10.141.79.12 with SMTP id g12mr1391496rvl.1190559342297; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.141.69.5 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 07:55:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85ejgppmun.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Content-Disposition: inline X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47770 Archived-At: On 23/09/2007, David Kastrup wrote: > If I break my arm it is also more flexible. The question is what > tanglible, user-visible benefit you expect to be coming from the > purported added flexibility. Forget it David. Wouldn't want to upset you. > > You are proposing to have a lot of work done No, I was offering to do a lot of work. > > >> I guess too many developpers actually use Texinfo to document their > >> code, and both users and developpers seem to be happy with that. > > > > You may be right. I think it is worth challenging though, otherwise > > we'll never progress? > > Progress without aim is just activism. You need to balance benefits > and efforts. Against stagnation. -- Dave Pawson XSLT XSL-FO FAQ. http://www.dpawson.co.uk