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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>, "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
Cc: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: A modern-mode?
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 14:37:29 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <710b5726-1473-4d89-97dd-1853a8e04b6c@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200916083658.GL93185@breton.holly.idiocy.org>

> Easy-mode as opposed to expert, obviously. ;)
> Starter-mode
> Familiar-mode
> Familiar-defaults-easy-start-mode? ;)


newbie-mode
___________

Someone who's a newbie and sees "Newbie"
can think (at least) two things:

1. It's easy, intended for newbies, so maybe
   it's for me, at least for now.

2. Maybe it's something I might want to grow
   out of.  It's maybe not the "real" or "full"
   thing.  There's more to Emacs than this mode.

#1 can encourage a newbie, especially if timid,
to try it.

#2 can encourage someone to move beyond it, and
discover and use more of Emacs.

The Emacs Wiki has long had pages that aimed
especially at newbies, and referred to as such.
They've helped a lot of people, and I've never
seen a negative reaction to use of the term
"newbie".

This is like "training wheels" for someone
learning to ride a bike.  You trust them, use
them to help you get going, but you want to
get to a point where you can really ride
without them.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-16 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15 14:41 A modern-mode? Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 14:51 ` Ergus
2020-09-16  0:16   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-15 15:26   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 16:34   ` Teemu Likonen
2020-09-15 18:36   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 21:08     ` Antoine Kalmbach
2020-09-16  4:15     ` Teemu Likonen
2020-09-16  7:52       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 15:13 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 16:31   ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-09-15 15:56 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-15 16:47 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
     [not found]   ` <a4bc94ca-3130-463a-bd79-3dbffbbce492@default>
2020-09-15 17:11     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 17:32       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 17:35       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 18:47   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 20:48     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  0:07       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  8:58         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  9:03           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 10:39           ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-16 10:47             ` João Távora
2020-09-16 12:20           ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16  5:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16  7:27   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  7:36     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16  8:36       ` Alan Third
2020-09-16 14:37         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-09-16 15:00           ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 15:22             ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17  3:54         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 10:30       ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-16 11:17         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 14:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 14:46             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 21:53               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 15:18             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-16 15:33               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 15:46               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 15:54                 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 16:17                     ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 16:32                       ` Noam Postavsky
2020-09-16 16:45                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 16:30                   ` Alan Third
2020-09-16 16:45                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 22:11                     ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 21:54               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 15:18             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 15:27               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:45                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17  3:58                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17  4:45                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17  9:54                       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-09-18  4:09                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 16:45             ` tomas
2020-09-16 21:47               ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 18:19         ` Daniel Martín
2020-09-16 18:45           ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 18:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 20:02               ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 21:36                 ` Alan Third
2020-09-17  0:11                   ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 19:17                     ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 19:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-17 19:54                         ` arthur miller
2020-09-18  4:50                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-17  3:18                   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 21:48                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-17  3:53       ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16  8:15     ` Ergus
2020-09-16  7:33   ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-16  8:55     ` tomas
2020-09-16  9:36   ` João Távora
2020-09-16  9:48     ` tomas
2020-09-16  9:54       ` João Távora
2020-09-16 10:20         ` tomas
2020-09-16 10:30           ` João Távora
2020-09-16 10:53             ` tomas
2020-09-16 11:09               ` João Távora
2020-09-16 12:40             ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 13:04               ` João Távora
2020-09-16 14:10                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 15:26                   ` João Távora
2020-09-16 15:43                     ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 15:45                       ` João Távora
2020-09-16 14:20                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 16:42               ` tomas
2020-09-16 21:46                 ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 19:28                   ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 19:47                     ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 12:32       ` Arthur Miller
     [not found] <<xjfmu1rrtks.fsf@sdf.org>
     [not found] ` <<E1kIPmO-0001u5-0m@fencepost.gnu.org>
2020-09-16 14:37   ` Drew Adams

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