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From: Alexandre Oberlin <alxobr@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 16:11:11 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <70837df3-23f5-416b-8e0a-b9f105f7a40c@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1551.1451775915.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 12:05:17 AM UTC+1, Drew Adams wrote:

> Apologies for not following this thread.  But offhand I'd say that
> there's your problem right there: you enable `delete-selection-mode'
> but you disable `transient-mark-mode'.  That should be a no-no.
Oh my dear, I managed to hit a no-no! But if it's a no-no why is it possible in the first place? Why ain't there a single warning? Where are emacs's no-nos listed? Where is the checkbox and message saying "I agree not to do any emacs no-no, even if I don't know what they are"?  Are you serious?

You can't ask all Emacs users to be expert in its ever changing configuration rules. Don't you think they might have some other work to do? Enabling delete-selection-mode and disabling transient-mark-mode is nothing more than what an average user unsatisfied with the default behavior would try at first in order to get a "Windows notepad" like behavior regarding selection and overwriting. This is not rocket science is it? 

However, I must repeat that the problem is not really here, since the program often functions correctly with the above settings. All I can conclude by now is that all users of Emacs today must be aware of an unpublished list of no-nos which allow the program to function erratically. 

I am sure you will gain loads of Windows users with that kind of philosophy.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-03  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-24  1:01 Replacing huge hidden selection when pasting text Alexandre Oberlin
2015-12-24  1:37 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-24 13:27   ` Alexandre Oberlin
2015-12-24 23:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-25  1:18     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found]     ` <mailman.529.1451006347.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 21:40       ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-02 22:03         ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]         ` <mailman.1550.1451772215.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-02 22:28           ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-02 23:04             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <mailman.1551.1451775915.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-03  0:11               ` Alexandre Oberlin [this message]
2016-01-03  0:28                 ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1554.1451780942.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-03  0:41                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-03  1:07                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-03  2:10                     ` Robert Thorpe
2016-01-03  2:11                 ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  2:25                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-03  3:10                   ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  3:21                     ` Drew Adams
2016-01-03  4:09                 ` Yuri Khan
2016-01-03  5:08                   ` Random832
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.1572.1451797753.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 17:13                     ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 14:07                       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.2334.1452780465.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 15:35                         ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 16:11                           ` Kaushal Modi
2016-01-14 17:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-14 16:36                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2016-01-14 16:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2341.1452787916.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 16:45                             ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 17:05                               ` Kaushal Modi
2016-01-14 19:37                           ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2359.1452800411.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 23:41                             ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1570.1451794187.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 16:42                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-13 17:54                     ` Yuri Khan
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2302.1452707668.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 13:57                       ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1564.1451787927.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-13 17:26                   ` Alexandre Oberlin
     [not found]     ` <mailman.528.1450998293.843.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2016-01-14 14:00       ` Alexandre Oberlin
2016-01-14 15:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-12-24  5:48 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-12-24 14:40 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-12-27 22:15 ` Robert Thorpe

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