From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: ndame <ndame@protonmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 12:04:29 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <707cb938-3722-46eb-a2ef-0211259680e9@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM0PR06MB642017F4AFD7C026F866243096A80@AM0PR06MB6420.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
> Question is also do you want those people who are
> unvilling to scratch the surface and deep-dive
> into Emacs and spend time to learn it and configure
> it, to use Emacs?
In general, I don't care. "Those people" are really
all kinds of people, with different reluctance to
scratch the surface.
You can do a lot with Emacs without scratching any
surface. Do I want someone who doesn't scratch the
surface at all to use Emacs? Sure, if they like.
But if they don't like, that's OK too.
Emacs may not be for everyone, but I've seen all
kinds of people, including non-scratchers of all
sorts, come to use it productively, and even come
to love it. Are there others who will never take
advantage of it or appreciate it? Sure.
FWIW, I really do NOT think that anyone who's
been involved with Emacs development has little
care for newbies or for making Emacs flexible and
easy to use.
The opposite is the case - everyone I've ever see
take an interest in Emacs cares very much about
usability, discoverability, etc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-02 19:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-27 17:50 Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers ndame
2020-04-27 18:07 ` Arthur Miller
2020-04-28 0:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 2:26 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-30 5:58 ` ndame
2020-05-02 2:21 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 15:52 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-02 15:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 17:00 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-02 18:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 18:55 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-02 21:16 ` [OFFTOPIC] Free Software (was: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers) Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 21:46 ` [OFFTOPIC] Free Software Arthur Miller
2020-05-03 23:27 ` [OFFTOPIC] Free Software (was: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers) chad
2020-05-04 3:05 ` Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Richard Stallman
2020-05-05 14:08 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-06 4:46 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-06 18:14 ` Nikita Mogilevsky
2020-05-07 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 16:25 ` ndame
2020-05-02 19:04 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-05-02 19:36 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-02 20:05 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 21:16 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-02 22:16 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-03 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-05 13:58 ` Arthur Miller
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-04-21 15:27 ndame
2020-04-22 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-20 6:22 ndame
2020-04-20 10:08 ` Po Lu
2020-04-21 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-21 2:09 ` Po Lu
2020-04-21 8:44 ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-04-22 4:30 ` Po Lu
2020-04-22 7:01 ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-04-23 3:10 ` Po Lu
2020-04-22 16:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-22 17:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-23 3:11 ` Po Lu
2020-04-23 12:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-24 5:24 ` Po Lu
2020-04-26 18:40 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-27 4:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-24 2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-24 2:39 ` 조성빈
2020-04-24 2:42 ` 조성빈
2020-04-24 7:33 ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-04-25 3:30 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-25 3:32 ` 조성빈
2020-04-26 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-26 14:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-26 15:14 ` tomas
2020-04-26 16:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-26 16:36 ` tomas
2020-04-21 2:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21 3:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-21 4:44 ` chad
2020-04-22 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-22 3:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16 14:58 "Why is emacs so square?" Drew Adams
2020-04-16 15:34 ` Joseph Garvin
2020-04-17 22:05 ` Ahmed Khanzada
2020-04-19 2:18 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-19 2:33 ` Po Lu
2020-04-19 4:55 ` ndame
2020-04-19 6:14 ` Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers (was: "Why is emacs so square?") Po Lu
2020-04-19 6:54 ` Eduardo Ochs
2020-04-19 7:22 ` Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Po Lu
2020-04-19 8:05 ` Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers (was: "Why is emacs so square?") 조성빈
2020-04-19 8:12 ` ndame
2020-04-19 8:21 ` Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Po Lu
2020-04-19 8:25 ` ndame
2020-04-19 9:30 ` Po Lu
2020-04-19 22:44 ` Sébastien Gendre
2020-04-20 0:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-20 3:32 ` Tim Cross
2020-04-20 9:54 ` Po Lu
2020-04-20 13:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-21 8:52 ` Po Lu
2020-04-21 13:57 ` Simen Heggestøyl
2020-04-21 15:36 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-22 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-22 4:33 ` Po Lu
2020-04-23 6:33 ` Ahmed Khanzada
2020-04-23 10:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-23 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 4:53 ` Po Lu
2020-04-20 6:08 ` 조성빈
2020-04-20 9:53 ` Po Lu
2020-04-20 13:07 ` 조성빈
2020-04-20 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-21 2:06 ` Po Lu
2020-04-21 2:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21 4:42 ` Po Lu
2020-04-21 13:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-22 4:41 ` Po Lu
2020-04-22 8:13 ` Sergey Organov
2020-04-22 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-22 11:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-23 7:04 ` Ahmed Khanzada
2020-04-23 14:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-23 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23 15:32 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-27 16:09 ` Arthur Miller
2020-04-27 16:43 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-04-20 14:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-21 12:43 ` Sébastien Gendre
2020-04-21 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 1:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-22 3:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-22 13:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 17:46 ` chad
2020-04-22 22:52 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-23 0:12 ` chad
2020-04-23 0:49 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-22 17:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 13:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 19:14 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-19 22:50 ` Po Lu
2020-04-19 8:16 ` Po Lu
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