From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24235: 25.1.50; `describe-bindings' request: show `??' definitions Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <701f2b99-dbfd-42f4-b8e4-ee6ab068234f@default> References: <877e83fr8i.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="108956"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 24235@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 27 19:19:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hrQLb-000SED-Kl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 27 Jul 2019 17:18:39 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2u0ee305fk-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 27 Jul 2019 17:18:39 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x6RHIbun032498; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 17:18:38 GMT In-Reply-To: <877e83fr8i.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9331 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1907270218 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9331 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1907270217 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163908 Archived-At: > The calling sequence for this command is slightly convoluted, but it > turns out that help.el calls basically > (describe-buffer-bindings buffer nil nil) > which is a C function (but why?) which inserts all the >=20 > C-n=09=09next-line > C-o=09=09open-line > C-H-w=09=09?? >=20 > stuff, which is then post-processed to add the xref links. So at the > point where the xref is added, then there's no feasible way to > determine what the ?? referred to, really, without redoing the work the C > function had already done... >=20 > I think. >=20 > Anybody? I don't have a solution suggestion. But maybe a start would be to move this from C to Lisp? (Just a suggestion. Dunno whether there's a good reason why it's still in C.)