From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: bug and dev mailing lists [was: bugfix eshell/rm] Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:43:43 -0800 Message-ID: <700952B30D324AC68311A2733075A16D@us.oracle.com> References: <8762rqozgo.fsf@gmail.com> <87ei6eowgv.fsf@gmail.com> <5A27109894BF4A56A72FEE8CAF886FA1@us.oracle.com> <83bp1grsrn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299969844 14465 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2011 22:44:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 12 23:44:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PyXXS-0007Y6-Df for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:43:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52822 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PyXXQ-00011d-R0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:43:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58119 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PyXXL-00011W-Tp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:43:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PyXXK-0006mE-Qo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:43:51 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:44150) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PyXXJ-0006lp-94; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 17:43:49 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p2CMhkn8028540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:43:48 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p2CMhj8J029304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:43:46 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt021.oracle.com (abhmt021.oracle.com [141.146.116.30]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p2CMhjam030446; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:43:45 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.53.173) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:43:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <83bp1grsrn.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Acvg847wCPPMUJeoTEustCLVyAeZvQAEE8KA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Source-IP: acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.4D7BF722.0083,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 148.87.113.121 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137174 Archived-At: > > E.g. bug 8219. In this case it was Eli who cross-posted to > > emacs-devel > > Please check your facts: it was Chong who posted the message that > started that thread, and it was posted to both lists. As a matter of fact, FWIW, I did check - precisely so that I wouldn't misattribute the cross-posting. I checked on the bug web site. Apparently I did not check well enough, however. Mille excuses. Yes, Yidong first cross-posted it, not you Eli. That was the first message of the thread after the merge of 8219 and 1242 (first message of 8219). I scanned the mail headers from the top of the web page (where there were only messages for bug 1242 and no cross-posting). I apparently missed the first 8219 post and mistook your reply to that one as the first cross-posting to emacs-devel. It was an honest mistake on my part. Apologies to you, Eli, in any case. But who did the cross-posting was not really the point (not my point, anyway). The reference was meant only as a (recent) _example_ of such cross-posting. Anyone, including me, could have cross-posted to emacs-devel. The point is that IMHO we should try to avoid such cross-posting. As Glenn said, there is a reason there are two lists.