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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309877 Archived-At: On 02/09/2023 12:19, Po Lu wrote: > Never has it been proposed, > as is perhaps only natural, that those who wish to involve themselves in > our affairs make some effort to bend themselves into conformity with our > established practices and procedures. Would you, as a new employee, > demand your workplace realign its customs to match your own habits? Most of us here already "made some effort" are are already "bent" to some degree or other. Neither are all of the participants "new employees". > Or > more germanely for this thread, demand your workplace to realign its > customs with your predictions of the habits of future recruits? That can indeed be a good idea to bring up in a corporation of a reasonable size (that hasn't yet been bogged down by bureaucracy), especially when the hiring market is tough.