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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239481 Archived-At: > Extending the underline|overline to the right of the line in the region > is a fancy detail, but I don't find it useful at all (underlining empty > long spaces is conceptually an error), and in the actual gui it is not > happening (not even extend_face_to_end_of_line in gui is executed as the > background color is extended automatically somewhere else) and there > haven't been complains either, so there is not people using that, so why > do we provide a complex solution implementation for a problem nobody > really cares and that potentially will produce overheads, code > complexity and more issues? > > I am wondering about over-specifications and over-engineering for such a > detail, when most of the users only need to extend the background color. Agreed. But what would we do when in the foreseeable future somebody asks us to provide such a feature? No one here has Eli's experience when it comes to guessing at what Emacs users might eventually want. martin