* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
@ 2009-01-24 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-25 0:12 ` Glenn Morris
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-24 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-pretest-bug
Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.
Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list.
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:
To reproduce:
emacs -Q
C-u M-x rmail FOO RET
C-u g FOO.2 RET
The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should),
but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save.
If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
`bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
d:/gnu/emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions.
In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2009-01-24 on HOME-C4E4A596F7
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: ENU
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: cp1255
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: RMAIL
Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
global-auto-composition-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
C-u M-x r m a i l <return> ~ / d a <tab> m a i l .
i n <return> p p p n n n n C-u g <up> 2 <return> C-x
b * M e s s <tab> <return> C-x b <return> M-x r e p
o r t <tab> <return>
Recent messages:
Loading vc-cvs...done
Counting messages...done
No following nondeleted message
Getting mail from d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in2...
Counting new messages...
Counting messages...20
Counting new messages...done (37)
Saving file d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in...
Wrote d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in
37 new messages read
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-24 14:24 ` bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-01-25 0:12 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-25 1:53 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-03-06 3:55 ` bug#2022: marked as done (23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it) Emacs bug Tracking System
2 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-25 0:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2022
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> emacs -Q
> C-u M-x rmail FOO RET
> C-u g FOO.2 RET
>
> The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should),
Yes, and at this point (after the new mail has been inserted) the
buffer is (correctly) marked unmodified.
> but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save.
But immediately after this, rmail-set-attribute is called to remove
the "unseen" attribute from the first new mail inserted from FOO.2.
This (correctly) marks the buffer as modified. If the mails in FOO.2
have already been seen, no buffer modification occurs.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-24 14:24 ` bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-25 0:12 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-25 1:53 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-25 3:10 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-03-06 3:55 ` bug#2022: marked as done (23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it) Emacs bug Tracking System
2 siblings, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Richard M Stallman @ 2009-01-25 1:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, 2022; +Cc: emacs-pretest-bug, bug-gnu-emacs, bug-submit-list
emacs -Q
C-u M-x rmail FOO RET
C-u g FOO.2 RET
The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should),
but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save.
Maybe it is deleting the "unseen" attribute when it shows one of the
newly insertes message.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 1:53 ` Richard M Stallman
@ 2009-01-25 3:10 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 4:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-26 4:22 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-25 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-25 3:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: 2022
OT:
You replied to a mail that looked like this:
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Your reply was addressed to:
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org,
bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com
Where are all these extra addresses coming from?
I can understand you having emacs-pretest-bug there (even though it's
unnecessary); but not bug-gnu-emacs and bug-submit-list as well. I
don't think that last one is even a valid address.
All this does is create duplicate mails (I got three copies of your
mail). Can you check your mail setup please?
(All you need is eliz and 2022).
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 3:10 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-25 4:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-25 5:54 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-26 4:22 ` Richard M Stallman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-25 4:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris, 2022; +Cc: rms
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:10:22 -0500
> Cc: 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
>
>
> OT:
>
> You replied to a mail that looked like this:
>
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
>
> Your reply was addressed to:
>
> To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
> Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org,
> bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com
>
> Where are all these extra addresses coming from?
Like me, Richard uses Rmail. So I'm guessing he just pressed `r',
which replies to all the addresses in From:, To:, CC:, and Reply-To:,
which are not himself.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 1:53 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-25 3:10 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-25 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-25 4:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: 2022
> From: Richard M Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> CC: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com,
> bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:53:23 -0500
>
> emacs -Q
> C-u M-x rmail FOO RET
> C-u g FOO.2 RET
>
> The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should),
> but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save.
>
> Maybe it is deleting the "unseen" attribute when it shows one of the
> newly insertes message.
That's what Glenn found out, yes. But I don't think I, as a user,
care about that attribute: if the buffer was just saved, it is not
modified from the user perspective. I find the fact that it is shown
as modified confusing.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 0:12 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-25 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-25 5:57 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-25 4:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2022
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:12:15 -0500
>
> But immediately after this, rmail-set-attribute is called to remove
> the "unseen" attribute from the first new mail inserted from FOO.2.
> This (correctly) marks the buffer as modified.
Emacs does not elsewhere consider seeing a file as its modification.
Why should Rmail be different?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 4:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-01-25 5:54 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 5:59 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-25 5:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2022, rms
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Like me, Richard uses Rmail. So I'm guessing he just pressed `r',
> which replies to all the addresses in From:, To:, CC:, and Reply-To:,
> which are not himself.
Whence bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com then?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 4:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-01-25 5:57 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-25 5:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2022
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Emacs does not elsewhere consider seeing a file as its modification.
> Why should Rmail be different?
Because seeing a file (for the first time) modifies the
X-RMAIL-ATTRIBUTES: header, which is stored in the file.
I guess that if you just use rmail to visit a folder which has an
unseen mail, it will be marked modified in exactly the same way.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 5:54 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-25 5:59 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-25 5:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, 2022, Richard Stallman
Glenn Morris wrote (on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 at 00:54 -0500):
> Whence bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com then?
Oh, I see, it's the Resent-To address. So this is bug#512.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 5:59 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-25 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-25 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2022, rms
> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:59:33 -0500
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
>
>
> Glenn Morris wrote (on Sun, 25 Jan 2009 at 00:54 -0500):
>
> > Whence bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com then?
>
> Oh, I see, it's the Resent-To address.
Yes, and bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org comes from Resent-CC. What about that
one?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 5:57 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-25 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-25 20:45 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-25 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2022
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:57:04 -0500
>
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> > Emacs does not elsewhere consider seeing a file as its modification.
> > Why should Rmail be different?
>
> Because seeing a file (for the first time) modifies the
> X-RMAIL-ATTRIBUTES: header, which is stored in the file.
The old (pre-mbox) Rmail also had the unseen attribute, but it never
marked the Rmail buffer modified when it was removed. So this is a
change in behavior, and I can't say I like it.
I don't think we want to regard seeing a message as a modification,
since the body of the message does not change a bit. But if we do
make this change, at the very least, it should have been implemented
as an option, and/or via an idle timer, so that just paging thru many
messages does not automatically mark them as ``seen'', although no
human could possibly ``see'' a message in a fraction of a second.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 18:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-01-25 20:45 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 21:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-25 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2022
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> The old (pre-mbox) Rmail also had the unseen attribute, but it never
> marked the Rmail buffer modified when it was removed.
That's a good argument. I wonder how it worked...
> I don't think we want to regard seeing a message as a modification,
> since the body of the message does not change a bit.
But the meta-data (or whatever you want to call it) has changed.
If Emacs were to crash without saving at that point, you would lose
some data, namely the data that you had viewed a particular mail.
It seems pretty reasonable to me. It's what VM does, for example.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 20:45 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-25 21:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-26 1:53 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-25 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2022
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:45:59 -0500
>
> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> > The old (pre-mbox) Rmail also had the unseen attribute, but it never
> > marked the Rmail buffer modified when it was removed.
>
> That's a good argument. I wonder how it worked...
By setting the buffer's modified flag, like it's done everywhere else.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 21:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-01-26 1:53 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-29 22:06 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-26 1:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2022
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> By setting the buffer's modified flag, like it's done everywhere else.
Actually, it seems rmail-mode-1 used to lie to you by doing:
(setq mode-line-modified "--")
Seems like a bad idea to me... Anyway,
(add-hook 'rmail-mode-hook (lambda () (setq mode-line-modified "--")))
and you're back to having the wool pulled over your eyes.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-25 3:10 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 4:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-01-26 4:22 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-26 7:25 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Richard M Stallman @ 2009-01-26 4:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2022
You replied to a mail that looked like this:
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Your reply was addressed to:
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org,
bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com
They were in the message I replied to. Rmail's reply command puts
them in automatically. Sometimes I remember to delete them, sometimes
I forget.
Here's what I get in *mail*:
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
CC: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com,
bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
The inclusion of those other addresses is certainly undesirable,
but given these headers, is Rmail doing something wrong?
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* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-26 4:22 ` Richard M Stallman
@ 2009-01-26 7:25 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-26 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-27 6:11 ` Richard M Stallman
0 siblings, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-26 7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: 2022
Richard M Stallman wrote:
> The inclusion of those other addresses is certainly undesirable,
> but given these headers, is Rmail doing something wrong?
Rmail was including the Resent-To and Resent-CC addresses in the
reply. It was established on emacs-devel in June 2008 that this is
incorrect according to RFC 2822 (filed as bug#512). I believe I have
just fixed this in rmail-reply.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-26 7:25 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-26 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-27 6:11 ` Richard M Stallman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2009-01-26 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2022, rms
>> The inclusion of those other addresses is certainly undesirable,
>> but given these headers, is Rmail doing something wrong?
> Rmail was including the Resent-To and Resent-CC addresses in the
> reply. It was established on emacs-devel in June 2008 that this is
> incorrect according to RFC 2822 (filed as bug#512). I believe I have
> just fixed this in rmail-reply.
Thank you,
Stefan
PS: The rest still needs to be fixed on the debbugs side.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-26 7:25 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-26 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2009-01-27 6:11 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-27 7:51 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Richard M Stallman @ 2009-01-27 6:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris, 2022; +Cc: bug-gnu-emacs, bug-submit-list, 2022, owner
Rmail was including the Resent-To and Resent-CC addresses in the
reply. It was established on emacs-devel in June 2008 that this is
incorrect according to RFC 2822 (filed as bug#512).
This conclusion seems really strange. If you received a message that
was resent to you and others, shouldn't they be in the CC for your response?
I searched my mail from June for bug.512 and got no matches.
Can you send me whatever message stated the reasons for this conclusion?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-27 6:11 ` Richard M Stallman
@ 2009-01-27 7:51 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-27 7:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: 2022
Richard M Stallman wrote:
> This conclusion seems really strange. If you received a message that
> was resent to you and others, shouldn't they be in the CC for your response?
>
> I searched my mail from June for bug.512 and got no matches.
> Can you send me whatever message stated the reasons for this conclusion?
For the record, this discussion has moved to emacs-devel.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-26 1:53 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-29 22:06 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-30 9:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-29 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 2022
I'd propose to tag this "wontfix", unless there are objections?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-29 22:06 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-30 9:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-30 17:38 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-30 23:05 ` Richard M Stallman
0 siblings, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-30 9:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 2022
> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:06:15 -0500
>
>
> I'd propose to tag this "wontfix", unless there are objections?
Objection!
I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up
the mode line to not show the modified status. There's no real reason
to change that behavior; I'm not aware of any request for such a
feature.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-30 9:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-01-30 17:38 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-30 23:05 ` Richard M Stallman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2009-01-30 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 2022
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up
> the mode line to not show the modified status. There's no real reason
> to change that behavior; I'm not aware of any request for such a
> feature.
Fair enough. I'm not an rmail user, so my opinion is not worth much.
(But the old behaviour seems like a bug to me, rather than a feature.)
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-30 9:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-30 17:38 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2009-01-30 23:05 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-31 4:17 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-01-31 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 2 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Richard M Stallman @ 2009-01-30 23:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, 2022; +Cc: bug-gnu-emacs, bug-submit-list, 2022, owner
I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up
the mode line to not show the modified status.
I changed that a long time ago, because I discovered I did want to
know whether the buffer is modified.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-30 23:05 ` Richard M Stallman
@ 2009-01-31 4:17 ` Kevin Rodgers
2009-01-31 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2009-01-31 4:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bug-gnu-emacs
Richard M Stallman wrote:
> I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up
> the mode line to not show the modified status.
>
> I changed that a long time ago, because I discovered I did want to
> know whether the buffer is modified.
And the truth shall set you free.
--
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
2009-01-30 23:05 ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-31 4:17 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2009-01-31 8:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-01-31 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rms; +Cc: 2022
> From: Richard M Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> CC: rgm@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com,
> 2022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org,
> owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:05:24 -0500
>
> I would like Rmail to keep the previous behavior, whereby it sets up
> the mode line to not show the modified status.
>
> I changed that a long time ago, because I discovered I did want to
> know whether the buffer is modified.
Well, at least this change in behavior should be in NEWS.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread
* bug#2022: marked as done (23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it)
2009-01-24 14:24 ` bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-25 0:12 ` Glenn Morris
2009-01-25 1:53 ` Richard M Stallman
@ 2009-03-06 3:55 ` Emacs bug Tracking System
2 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Emacs bug Tracking System @ 2009-03-06 3:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris
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Your message dated Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:49:32 -0500
with message-id <d47i33tinn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
and subject line Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
has caused the Emacs bug report #2022,
regarding 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
to be marked as done.
This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with.
If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith.
(NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this
message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system
misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
Subject: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:24:37 +0200
Message-ID: <ueiysu6hm.fsf@gnu.org>
Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.
Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list.
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:
To reproduce:
emacs -Q
C-u M-x rmail FOO RET
C-u g FOO.2 RET
The last command automatically saves the Rmail inbox (as it should),
but the buffer is nevertheless marked modified after the save.
If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
`bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
d:/gnu/emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions.
In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2009-01-24 on HOME-C4E4A596F7
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: nil
value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
value of $LC_TIME: nil
value of $LANG: ENU
value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
locale-coding-system: cp1255
default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
Major mode: RMAIL
Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
global-auto-composition-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
Recent input:
C-u M-x r m a i l <return> ~ / d a <tab> m a i l .
i n <return> p p p n n n n C-u g <up> 2 <return> C-x
b * M e s s <tab> <return> C-x b <return> M-x r e p
o r t <tab> <return>
Recent messages:
Loading vc-cvs...done
Counting messages...done
No following nondeleted message
Getting mail from d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in2...
Counting new messages...
Counting messages...20
Counting new messages...done (37)
Saving file d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in...
Wrote d:/usr/eli/data/mail.in
37 new messages read
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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: 2022-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: Re: bug#2022: 23.0.60; Rmail buffer marked modified after saving it
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:49:32 -0500
Message-ID: <d47i33tinn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Well, at least this change in behavior should be in NEWS.
ok, done
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