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From: Nikolay Kudryavtsev <nikolay.kudryavtsev@gmail.com>
To: Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Test Alternative initialize scheme
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 20:42:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c882d6d-6c94-1d75-85bb-8d332d4fb630@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86r2nprbxx.fsf@zoho.com>

> So this is obviously not the problem, so can
> you describe it again or provide an example?
I was not talking about the relationship dependence, but of coexistence. 
For example there's Evil, which is a package that provides Vi keyboard 
layout. It works fine by itself. Then there's Ivy which is a minibuffer 
completion interface. Ivy by default uses vanilla Emacs key bindings. 
Spacemacs provides some improvement in its layer that allows using Ivy 
with Evil. Now the question is - who's area of responsibility it is to 
provide that? Emacs upstream developers? Of course not. Nor should we 
expect developers of Evil to care about providing configuration for Ivy, 
or Ivy developers providing configuration for Evil. So there's a space 
for a third party(the first being Emacs developers and the second - 
package developers). The problem is how to enable those third party 
contributions, while taking some measures to inhibit unnecessary 
fragmentation. And I think it is to be expected that good solutions to 
this end may not be feasible.

One solution would be providing a repository for such configurations 
snippets and infrastructure for pulling them. And then the main dev team 
can ideally mark some of them obsolete or let's say broken. This of 
course is a mammoth task. Actually not so long ago somebody released a 
basic implementation of such system:

https://github.com/dustinlacewell/emacs-nougat

I haven't tried it myself yet, and personally I'm not a fan of org-based 
configs, but I have to admit that it's trying to solve the problem we're 
currently discussing.

-- 
Best Regards,
Nikolay Kudryavtsev




  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-09 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-04 23:12 Test Alternative initialize scheme Tim Johnson
2018-04-05 21:43 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2018-04-05 21:57   ` Tim Johnson
2018-04-08  0:27     ` [solved]Test " Tim Johnson
     [not found] ` <mailman.11759.1522964625.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-06 19:06   ` Test " Emanuel Berg
2018-04-06 21:15     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2018-04-07  6:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-07 12:38         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2018-04-07 12:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.11799.1523049339.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-06 21:55       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-07 12:20         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2018-04-08  1:43           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-08 12:31             ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
     [not found]             ` <mailman.11861.1523190672.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-08 14:48               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-09 17:42                 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.11937.1523295742.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-09 18:56                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-09 22:24                     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.11951.1523312688.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-09 22:44                       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-09 23:15                         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.11953.1523315732.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-09 23:41                           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.11717.1522883541.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-05  0:34 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-05  0:55   ` Tim Johnson
2018-04-05  1:09   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]   ` <mailman.11718.1522889734.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-05  1:15     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-05  1:28     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-04-05 15:15       ` Tim Johnson
2018-04-05 21:46       ` Tim Johnson
     [not found]       ` <mailman.11760.1522964821.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-04-06 18:57         ` Emanuel Berg

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