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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>, tumashu <tumashu@163.com>
Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs's set-frame-size can not work well with gnome-shell?
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 05:10:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c775e15-1113-8406-5583-97c259305a7d@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <728856fd-dab1-eade-54f5-6ba2c299373a@gmx.at>

On 28.01.2020 12:47, martin rudalics wrote:
>  >> The reason for this (and I don't know if you've seen it as well)
>  >
>  > Not really. If I drag any border of a normal, decorated frame, the 
> other borders stay where they were.
> 
> Did you run this with a pristine, unpatched GTK+ build?  Did you compare
> the outer right edges before and after the moves?  Everything here is OK
> when running the 'bar' functions from a Lucid build, BTW.

Unpatched GTK+ build, yes. Or any other build. Resizing the "normal" 
kind of frames always behaves as expected here. Moving by the title-bar 
does, too. It might be not buttery-smooth, but the edges always move 
where expected, and there are no unexpected jumps that I see when 
resizing an undecorated frame. Or move a frame by the mode-line in a 
Lucid build.

I didn't exactly compare the edge positions programmatically, but my 
eyes are usually good at catching that kind of thing.

> I suppose though that your Emacs' redraws too lag behind by showing
> either a gap between the right scroll bar and frame border when dragging
> to the left and not showing the scroll bar when dragging to the right?
> Here they do that even when dragging the left border with the WM alone.

That happens here too.

And it's not what my previous complaints were about. A drift is not 
simply a lag. Lag rights itself at the end of the cursor motion (you 
just have to wait a little). Drift doesn't right itself: the cursor ends 
up at a certain distance from the the point of the frame it has been 
dragging.

>  > I'm guessing that here, under Mutter, the window manager controls the
>  > sizing and positioning when I'm doing this. And Emacs just handles
>  > sizing notifications and redraws itself. So I've never seen this
>  > particular issue act up in practice.
> 
> Then it would ignore the Emacs sizing request even for a top-level frame
> something we hadn't that far.  Unless your machine is so fast that you
> can handle all requests in "real time" so that you don't see the lags I
> mentioned above.

It doesn't exactly ignore sizing requests. Or not all of them. At least, 
set-frame-size works just fine on top-level frames like that.

Rather, I think in these cases it's not Emacs which handles the resizing 
or dragging events. The WM does that and only tells the Emacs window to 
resize appropriately.

>  > But your description sounds similar to my results in the previous 
> experiment with non-decorated non-child frames.
>  >
>  >> The commands 'foo-' and 'foo+' drag the left border a 100 times to the
>  >> right or left by three pixels in one step.  The right border should
>  >> remain unchanged.  The commands 'bar-' and 'bar+' should do the same
>  >> but, in fact, sometimes move the right border as well.
>  >
>  > Yes, I'm seeing exactly the same results with these commands (aside 
> from the redisplay detail, which I haven't tried).
> 
> You mean the right border never ever moves with the bar functions.

I'm saying I see the same results are you do (with Mutter; GTK3 build).

foo commands don't move the right border. bar commands do move it 
(basically always).



  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-30  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 197+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-10  2:34 Emacs's set-frame-size can not work well with gnome-shell? tumashu
2020-01-10  9:56 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-11  1:29   ` tumashu
2020-01-11  7:50     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-11  9:56       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-11 10:19         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-11 10:21           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-11 10:35             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-11 11:21               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-11 13:45                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-14  2:09                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-14 15:50                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-15  1:31                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-15  8:08                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-15 23:53                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-16  8:03                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-16  8:15                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-16  9:18                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-16  9:27                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-16  9:44                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-16 10:12                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-16 10:22                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-16 15:03                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-16 18:33                                             ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                               ` <15405719-d58d-44db-f1df-ad3bb272b2fc@yandex.ru>
     [not found]                                                 ` <aba0683f-466c-76cf-9024-e18bfc9fdc94@gmx.at>
2020-01-18  2:05                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-18  2:29                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-18  8:34                                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-01-18 12:27                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-18 13:48                                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-01-19  2:45                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-19  8:52                                                               ` martin rudalics
2020-01-20 14:14                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-20 15:57                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2020-01-20 22:20                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-21  8:29                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-01-21 11:36                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-21 16:11                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-01-21 21:33                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-22  9:07                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2020-01-22 10:57                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-18  8:32                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-20 13:37                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-20 15:57                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-20 23:02                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-21  8:29                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-21 12:11                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-21 16:12                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-21 22:26                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-22  9:08                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-22 11:35                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-22 13:18                                                                         ` tumashu
2020-01-22 13:32                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-22 16:19                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-22 17:36                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-22 21:15                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-25  8:41                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-25 10:09                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-25 12:10                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-26 11:59                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-26 17:38                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-26 20:50                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-28  9:46                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-28 15:19                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-28 16:20                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-30  2:14                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-27 19:17                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-01-27 21:15                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-28  9:47                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2020-01-30  2:10                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-01-30  9:38                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2020-01-30 17:21                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-30 18:15                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-30 18:41                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-31  1:22                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-31  9:29                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-31 11:52                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-31 15:44                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-31 22:22                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-01  9:35                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-02-05  1:39                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-05  9:15                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-02-10  7:06                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-10 17:53                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-02-10 22:40                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-10  7:22                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-10 17:54                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-02-10 22:49                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-13 18:42                                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-02-13 23:48                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-14  8:48                                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-02-15 22:31                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-16 10:01                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-02-16 20:47                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-17 18:20                                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-02-21 11:03                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-21 11:13                                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-21 16:08                                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2020-02-24  0:11                                                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-26 17:30                                                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-02-28 16:32                                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-03-03 13:50                                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-03 14:40                                                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-03-03 18:27                                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-04 17:29                                                                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-03-06 23:38                                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-07  0:07                                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-06 23:03                                                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-16 23:01                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-17 18:21                                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-02-21 14:18                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-21 16:08                                                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-02-23  9:22                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-26 17:30                                                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-03-06 23:32                                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-09  9:03                                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-03-12  0:22                                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-12  8:23                                                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-03-13 16:57                                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-13 17:46                                                                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-03-16 19:51                                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-17  9:38                                                                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-03-17 11:22                                                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 17:04                                                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 11:09                                                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 15:08                                                                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 16:08                                                                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 19:07                                                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-04  8:51                                                                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04  9:02                                                                                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04  9:30                                                                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06  9:03                                                                                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06 13:26                                                                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07  8:32                                                                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 14:04                                                                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 18:36                                                                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07  8:33                                                                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 13:19                                                                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  6:44                                                                                                                                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-12  7:23                                                                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-12  7:37                                                                                                                                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-12  8:03                                                                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06 22:51                                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07  8:33                                                                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 14:25                                                                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:39                                                                                                                                                                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-07 14:50                                                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 15:37                                                                                                                                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-07 19:25                                                                                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  7:59                                                                                                                                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-08 10:37                                                                                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08 12:12                                                                                                                                                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-08  8:31                                                                                                                                                                   ` Support
2020-04-08  8:45                                                                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08  9:03                                                                                                                                                                       ` Adrián Medraño Calvo
2020-04-08  9:25                                                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-02-14  9:52                                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-02-15 22:49                                                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-02-16 10:01                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-27 23:20                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-27 23:32                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-28  9:48                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2020-01-28 15:39                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-28 16:20                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2020-01-28  9:48                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-28 15:51                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-22 17:35                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-22 22:40                                                                           ` tumashu
2020-01-25  8:41                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-25 10:17                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-25 10:29                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-25 10:52                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-25 12:11                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-25 23:01                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-26  8:43                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-26 11:02                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-26 15:32                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-26 21:35                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-28  9:46                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-30  2:23                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-30  9:38                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-30 17:32                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-30 18:04                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-30 17:42                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-30 18:04                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-26 11:03                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-23  0:21                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-23  0:39                                                                             ` tumashu
2020-01-25  8:42                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-01-16  0:04                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-16  8:04                         ` martin rudalics
2020-01-16  8:25                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-11 10:36       ` tumashu
2020-01-11 13:45         ` martin rudalics
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-01-22  8:04 tumashu
2020-01-22  9:09 ` martin rudalics
2020-01-22 10:03   ` tumashu
2020-01-22 17:33     ` martin rudalics
2020-01-22 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii

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