From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 19:30:21 +0000 Message-ID: <6c69780538119beaa5d8@heytings.org> References: <16338bdc2497fc51c6fb6d54ab370bfb@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <831r59kyhf.fsf@gnu.org> <834ka4k15m.fsf@gnu.org> <83y27gijmz.fsf@gnu.org> <8335pmgnjy.fsf@gnu.org> <604da2cb10ac61f2b8b89a02c89056be@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83a6jtff87.fsf@gnu.org> <5ac7a31cf2959c31c262a3377c736a5a@webmail.orcon.net.nz> <83ilygew7p.fsf@gnu.org> <83fstjdiwl.fsf@gnu.org> <871r534s2o.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfxgx09x.fsf@gmail.com> <6c697805389bac24b8ba@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="VNnlkHGQu8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14239"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Phil Sainty , Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 04 21:34:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXTjY-0003Qq-OM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 21:34:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57942 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXTjW-0007Gr-Lw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 15:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37252) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXTfS-0004hm-Pc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 15:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:37442) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXTfO-0000CH-9O; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 15:30:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1633375822; bh=nHxnxIO5EqTMJfw3jV21nQes7jR07VQquBUYmJ+RaVk=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=XjsI6omttabMBIf9BUUQCuy2L913rFlThI9mzx7iZwVJPDFGBhOM+pRHmKX9Kyz7Q IEzCt8gHtLJNvn5O7ojPztzYQoaoQMIlNor8RZaC0G1NexzWV/NuydjV89S7SDg2/7 RXE4lGOnR+cy3Urbu92tQcdwbaY84s+gV2uxK399KQ/hq9cnELfBzsDbabVO8NOb0/ LoM+vxAKfdQ2JRC+smJc9d2qnQPsY+YrgUgfhXdSyuFsg+YGeYe2/98VoU6BNOetR4 VljMOgIE7ysYVUEAn4ilmzNb6JZ6VwpB0OUSAobyeaYvGLgzQ7490K2sSnbMj22U93 1/g0Ww53flbJQ== In-Reply-To: Content-ID: <6c69780538ac652378c3@heytings.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276257 Archived-At: --VNnlkHGQu8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <6c697805384a229c3219@heytings.org> >> Interesting.=C2=A0 A few days ago you still believed that name spaces ar= e=20 >> [A], and one of the "mistaken minds" told you that they are not [A],=20 >> but [B]. Now you believe that they are both [A] and [B].=C2=A0 Perhaps i= n a=20 >> week you'll realize that they are [B], not [A]. >=20 > the statements you make are false. > If you say so. Anyone can look at the archives. > > I have no time to indulge your fantasies and persecutions. > I fear you rather don't want to discuss with those who point you to clear= =20 weaknesses in the approach in which you believe and which you've=20 implemented. Which is understandable, but perhaps not the best way to=20 convince those who expressed their doubts. And telling them that they are= =20 "trolls" and "mistaken minds" also does not help, of course. Have a good day||night, too. --VNnlkHGQu8--