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From: "Jostein Kjønigsen" <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>
To: "Ergus via Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
Subject: Detecting tree-sitter based major-modes for end-user customization and third party functions/packages
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:35:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c5b1d81-b6ce-bc87-f58e-c950b57fd20b@secure.kjonigsen.net> (raw)

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Hey everyone.

This may or may not have been answered in an earlier thread about the 
subject, but I couldn't really find it, so if this email and question 
represents a duplicate: sorry in advance.

With that said, I'll get straight down to business.

While as a major-mode author, I can decide to use tree-sitter to 
implement key functionality, we don't expect end-users to (need to) have 
the same level awareness about the technology used to implement the 
modes they are consuming.

However end-users often want to customize Emacs based on major-mode 
agnostic properties of the current major-mode none the less. Examples 
are adding hooks for prog-mode, c-mode-common-mode (from cc-mode), etc. 
This may also apply to other third-party packages, in how they interact 
with buffers (if prog-mode do this, if text-mode do that, etc).

I expect these kinda of needs to arise for tree-sitter based major-modes 
sooner rather than later, where one may be able to leverage tree-sitter 
node-manipulation functions rather than use text-based equivalents.

But to be able to leverage tree-sitter based functions, one would first 
need to know that one is interacting with a tree-sitter based 
major-mode. And to customize one, one would need a hook.

So how do we plan to expose this to end-users and other developers?

Looking at (treesit-major-mode-setup), I can't see it leaving any traces 
to be reliably detected later. Should we add some (documented) 
buffer-local variables to be able to detect this later? Should we create 
a mostly empty minor-mode for easy detection and ability to add hooks?

Or does anyone have any other suggestions for how we can solve this 
user-facing need of tree-sitter?

--
Kind regards
*Jostein Kjønigsen*
jostein.kjønigsen.no <https://jostein.kjønigsen.no>
jostein@kjonigsen.net - jostein@gmail.com

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             reply	other threads:[~2022-12-20 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-20 11:35 Jostein Kjønigsen [this message]
2022-12-20 14:21 ` Detecting tree-sitter based major-modes for end-user customization and third party functions/packages Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-20 15:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-20 19:44   ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-12-20 20:03     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-12-20 20:14       ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-12-20 20:21         ` Stefan Monnier

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