From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36417: [PATCH] Document bookmark annotations in Emacs Manual Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6c30be13-4435-465f-8954-15142f1e4327@default> References: <<>> <<<83y31lhjwz.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<>> <<<93a1eeb8-568b-4ecc-9d38-37ac23545977@default>>> <<<83mui1h7vf.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<079f4f36-497b-4580-905f-3acb2eb89f3e@default>> <<83k1d5h4u9.fsf@gnu.org>> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="108281"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 36417@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 29 00:27:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hgzKo-000S1T-Rn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 28 Jun 2019 22:26:48 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2tat7e652a-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 28 Jun 2019 22:26:47 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x5SMQiFU031477; Fri, 28 Jun 2019 22:26:44 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83k1d5h4u9.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4861.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9302 signatures=668688 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1906280256 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9302 signatures=668688 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1906280257 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:161777 Archived-At: > > > We didn't remove the variable, we just avoided > > > documenting it in the manual. > > > > Yes, I realized that. And that was perhaps based on > > Stefan's saying he doesn't think it's a very important > > use case. >=20 > He said that in response to my question, which I asked > because I also didn't see that as too important. Seriously? It doesn't seem like you even knew what it was for. You asked, "What is the use case for using annotations but not showing them?" I had to point out that (1) "using" is a misnomer for _setting_ (creating, editing), and (2) "using" an annotation _does_ also show it. The actions take place at different times. The annotation is shown in both cases. So your question made no sense: there is no "using" an annotation without showing it. You can't go by the words "use" and "show" in the two variable names. I imagine a real question behind what you asked might be, "What is the use case for the "*-use-*" variable?". I answered that. > > I pointed out that it is just as important as using > > the other option. >=20 > You are in minority here. Whoop-dee-doo!