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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42e X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120480 Archived-At: On 17.05.2019 16:35, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > No, that we have lots of inconsistencies in keybindings (or > elsewhere). That would be a more difficult discussion, probably calling for more changes across the board. We may go there another time, but not today, at least not as far as I'm concerned. > I hope now it is clear that would be a wrong interpretation. Why not fix at least one thing, then? It wouldn't change much by itself, but it would send a good message.