From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17569: 24.4.50; doc of "wrapper hooks" Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 08:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6bad204d-c3d7-4630-aa7f-1a09288f6ad4@default> References: <6907e1e1-e802-45cd-adad-917290420cf6@default> <9pmwe8t8qq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <17297117-eeea-4bca-a9a3-a08cd966d1fb@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400943875 4334 80.91.229.3 (24 May 2014 15:04:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 15:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17569@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 24 17:04:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WoDUm-0000FK-9T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 17:04:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48228 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoDUl-0006p2-Hn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 11:04:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39157) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoDUZ-0006oW-Sv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 11:04:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoDUR-0002Zp-6v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 11:04:11 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60313) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoDUR-0002Zj-3Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 11:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WoDUQ-0006qD-C8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 11:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 15:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17569 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17569-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17569.140094382126264 (code B ref 17569); Sat, 24 May 2014 15:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17569) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 May 2014 15:03:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WoDU4-0006pX-ES for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 11:03:40 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:33938) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WoDU1-0006pJ-SH for 17569@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 11:03:39 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s4OF3VRd020044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 24 May 2014 15:03:31 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s4OF3R2l004600 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 24 May 2014 15:03:30 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s4OF3RTf002990; Sat, 24 May 2014 15:03:27 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:89449 Archived-At: > > OK, thanks for the history. But if those variables whose doc > > refers to "wrapper hook" still have values that are a list of > > functions that are, in fact, wrapper hooks, then the concept > > still needs to be explained, one way or another. >=20 > No, such vars should be obsolete as well (and hence removed > from the doc). So not only is something like `buffer-substring-filters' to be considered obsolete (the case since Emacs 24), but also a var like `filter-buffer-substring', whose doc refers to the fact (since Emacs 24) that it uses "obsolete variable `buffer-substring-filters'." And what about a function, such as `filter-buffer-substring', whose implementation and doc string makes use of such a var? What is being recommended now for someone who wants the functionality of `filter-buffer-substring' - just roll your own?