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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271745 Archived-At: On 28.07.2021 16:27, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > The whole point of using TS is NOT to require that > the Emacs development team or Emacs users should know enough about > parsing of the many languages Emacs supports to modify the grammar. > We want another, independent development team to take care of that, I think we know both, though? There are a number of niche languages that only Emacs supports. Or at least that aren't likely to get good support in TreeSitter.