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[62.228.65.176]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v10sm1379083wmg.48.2019.10.19.15.04.13 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:04:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20191019122823.GA7911@ACM> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::32b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:241241 Archived-At: On 19.10.2019 15:28, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Answer; NOTHING! I want all the facilities of Emacs Lisp Mode whilst > editing a .dir-locals.el, not to have some overlord determine for me > what I don't really want. It's a very lazy reply that can be tailored to almost any situation when you don't want to see something changed. "I don't want some overlord [e.g. the author of a change proposal] determine for me what I <...> want"! No, we don't want all the Emacs Lisp Mode facilities. We only want some of them, and others, we want at least slightly modified.