From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chad Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Use Core Text for Cocoa Emacs Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:00:15 -0700 Message-ID: <6FB96086-3851-4AAB-BA98-4D4C7ED94F7D@mit.edu> References: <94E6FF46-4227-4DA2-BE35-C64908558378@gmail.com> <18325.1274214480@ccs.covici.com> <24612.1274240176@ccs.covici.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274283941 10306 80.91.229.12 (19 May 2010 15:45:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, covici@ccs.covici.com To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 19 17:45:37 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OElSj-0005Zz-4z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 17:45:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47107 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OElSi-00066Y-AX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:45:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40433 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OElSc-00066J-GD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:45:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OElSb-0002rB-FT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:45:30 -0400 Original-Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu ([18.9.25.14]:58556) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OElSb-0002r7-Dh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:45:29 -0400 X-AuditID: 1209190e-b7b82ae000005260-e2-4bf407987055 Original-Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (MAILHUB-AUTH-4.MIT.EDU [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 04.88.21088.89704FB4; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id o4JFjRF8008788; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:45:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.6] (c-98-247-149-76.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [98.247.149.76]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as yandros@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id o4JFjOE9008479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 19 May 2010 11:45:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124941 Archived-At: On May 18, 2010, at 8:44 PM, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: > Could you give us a concrete procedure that you used when you judged > "emacs has never work with this part of the operating system"? >=20 > I'm asking it because I don't know how to confirm whether or not > "accessibility" or "Voiceover" gets supported when I add some code > with respect to this area. In System Preferences, open Universal Access. VoiceOver can be=20 activated from there, or via the key combo Command-Fn-F5. You can also go into the VoiceOver Utility from there. I can verify that Emacs=20= doesn't work with VoiceOver, in that VoiceOver can only identify the application name, title, tool-bar, and scrollbar. The Universal Access tool-bar access works partially with the emacs tool-bar -- it can = identify the buttons, but not the labels. It cannot identify buffer text or = functional=20 elements inside emacs like customize buttons or modelines. *Chad=