From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Marshall, Simon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: RE: [21.1.90]: point put at point-min in *compilation* Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:19:43 -0000 Message-ID: <6EE216E1AA959543A555C60FF34FB76702D254AF@maileube01.misys.global.ad> References: <6EE216E1AA959543A555C60FF34FB76702CD2B19@maileube01.misys.global.ad> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202203282 8488 80.91.229.12 (5 Feb 2008 09:21:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 05 10:21:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JMJze-0003Rv-7k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:21:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JMJzB-0000HP-SW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:21:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JMJyB-0007w4-5v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:19:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JMJy6-0007se-2p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:19:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JMJy5-0007sY-SF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:19:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JMJy5-0001WV-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:19:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JMJy5-0004jK-5l for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:19:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JMJy1-0001VV-T0 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:19:52 -0500 Original-Received: from cluster-b.mailcontrol.com ([217.68.146.190]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JMJy1-0001Uz-6f; Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:19:49 -0500 Original-Received: from maileube01.misys.global.ad ([217.196.233.105]) by rly20b.srv.mailcontrol.com (MailControl) with ESMTP id m159Jc5c014534; Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:19:46 GMT x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [21.1.90]: point put at point-min in *compilation* Thread-Index: AchnlgAZ3EfGwa4PT4uC8BsjHm+ZMgAQBBjQ X-Scanned-By: MailControl A-08-00-01 (www.mailcontrol.com) on 10.66.0.130 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:88265 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20882 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman [mailto:rms@gnu.org]=20 >=20 > In 21.1.90, point is placed at point-min, so that you have to actively > scroll the window to see compilation output. I really don't like it! >=20 > I made that change because someone complained about the old behavior. > The old behavior is inconsistent, doing one thing in the=20 > first compilation > and something else in a recompilation. >=20 > The new behavior is consistent: it does the same thing for the second > compilation and the first. Ok. Glenn Morris pointed out that I could use compilation-scroll-output and grep-scroll-output to change the behaviour. However, they aren't mentioned in NEWS and they are not autoloaded, so I wasn't able to discover what to do about this change. I don't know what the guidelines are for autoloading custom options, but perhaps at least there should be a NEWS entry to explain the change to this behaviour, with a mention of these options (and any other equivalents for other similar modes)?=20=20 I would guess that a default of t for compilation-scroll-output would be better that the current default of nil, but YMMV. When I'm compiling, I generally want to see progress, so I generally want Emacs to scroll the window for me. Simon. 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