From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>,
"'Dani Moncayo'" <dmoncayo@gmail.com>
Cc: 12443@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12443: 24.2.50; Default values in the minibuffer prompt (fix inconsisntecy)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:39:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6DE0F5273298453C9EF24A012F8DBC17@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy5kchakk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
> > I see no reason for this inconsistency,
>
> Agreed. The officially sanctioned behavior is to use "(default ...)".
> > neither I see the need for the "default " part.
>
> That would make the job of minibuffer-electric-default-mode harder
> (more false positives).
No offense to Miles or anyone else, but that mode is just a workaround for the
bother introduced by Emacs adding `(default ...)' here and there (but not yet
everywhere). Just get rid of the cause, instead of sticking a band-aid on the
wound.
> > So, hereby I propose to fix this, i.e., to omit the "default " in
> > those commands where this is currently shown.
>
> I find the "(default ...)" text to use up too much space for
> my own taste, so I use the patch below to rewrite it on-the-fly
> to "[...]".
Just get rid of "(default ...)" altogether. A user can use `M-n' to see the
default value, and `M-n RET' instead of `RET' to choose it. No big deal, and a
lot less noise.
---
Or do as I do in Icicles: give users the choice, across all minibuffer prompts.
They have an option, with these possible values:
nil - Do not insert default value
or add it to prompt.
t - Add default value to prompt
(except for `read-file-name' and
`read-from-minibuffer').
Do not insert it.
`insert-start' - Insert default value
and leave cursor at start.
`insert-end' - Insert default value
and leave cursor at end.
`preselect-start' - Insert and preselect default value;
leave cursor at beginning.
`preselect-end' - Insert and preselect default value;
leave cursor at end.
The default value of the option is `t' (mainly to be closer to what people are
used to in vanilla Emacs). But what I am suggesting for Emacs is the `nil'
behavior as default: do nothing with the default value. (Personally, I use
`insert-end'.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-14 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-14 13:53 bug#12443: 24.2.50; Default values in the minibuffer prompt (fix inconsisntecy) Dani Moncayo
2012-09-14 15:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-14 16:39 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-09-14 19:17 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-09-14 19:10 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-09-14 19:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-14 20:42 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-09-14 20:50 ` Jambunathan K
2012-09-14 20:55 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-14 22:47 ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-25 12:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 12:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-25 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-25 15:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 15:34 ` Drew Adams
2020-08-25 16:19 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-25 18:23 ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-25 19:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 20:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-26 12:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-27 18:48 ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-28 14:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-28 15:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-30 13:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 15:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 17:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 18:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 18:49 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-06 20:18 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-06 20:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 20:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 21:55 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-06 21:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 21:50 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-06 21:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-07 18:46 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-07 19:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-08 18:32 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-08 20:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-09 18:50 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-10 13:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-11 9:11 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-09-11 12:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-14 8:40 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-09-14 11:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-13 2:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-12 19:04 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-13 8:53 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-13 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-13 13:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-07 20:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-17 19:05 ` bug#12443: 24.2.50; Default values in the minibuffer prompt (fix Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-01-18 16:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-01-18 18:06 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-08-28 14:13 ` bug#12443: 24.2.50; Default values in the minibuffer prompt (fix inconsisntecy) Lars Ingebrigtsen
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