From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: weird key bindings... Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 08:11:32 +0900 Message-ID: <6C1B33D9-DC6C-4191-891E-302759F28194@gmail.com> References: <6BFEF22A-2A4A-4320-81A5-FF78D613ADF7@gmail.com> <83bmqbft49.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496099531 3808 195.159.176.226 (29 May 2017 23:12:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 23:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 30 01:12:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTpW-0000hg-3r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 01:12:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50808 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTpZ-0004Lj-Un for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 19:12:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47686) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTp7-0004LN-6O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 19:11:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTp6-0006Tr-Du for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 19:11:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x241.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::241]:36778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTp2-0006T1-M1; Mon, 29 May 2017 19:11:36 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x241.google.com with SMTP id n23so13793248pfb.3; Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=h3i6vMS3GYGakfcZf/SIYapDWKNnqsG1H00NDW4cbuc=; b=fGhHPUXKQ/UDEQsOX+Bc/0DQSHVpK7cOk65tSIcq9mC7AlnwJsOIyIfz0VGavKdXtP TtVp2EHc9F4FgqFustxHbISOl5bgrPFeWyaXnof1YGq+n3mV10yHcCJIQZ3nfFekvLoM XDKU78WScGW76MoNYYi+EgEXMlCcjhVSkhy1UYm2AurfvkfTNnqXyxPNXbVyn0PpcvQs vlNcsqXVmL0KgqjqJIxJCI7WKupIrfRiQBmOixc38Cwmcm7DkLr1tsDRdBgPF+Oeuusu 8BIK8Ajjb/r+AKKrZ+DhqvAOx7WnpHPar2gLIrueuiq0JbZqmGMYm3V/Eam94qJNCBcb mLHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=h3i6vMS3GYGakfcZf/SIYapDWKNnqsG1H00NDW4cbuc=; b=NweY1+BZS/ywY/MnT7dlI8lUVGDXeobAWYEOocpslCjucJLKBEM3Dhmg/w4Jey1EPG vQc39fL2BOLHyaNVe5QOUv8158yLYjmt3Aitw41uzPh1ZnOLT+cqVLona6dLg2lDBgNb aQS+fq30BRQzMsP5EAopDjxU0WfAg7f4UH08EMwiBgs1WjGoKU5hfQt2OkArI0u9kUgF +vTc2CO/YgtkXR+SDcosqqV+JGW96boG04Qp/20zvyFKEooqsKRY6JeQJDNExSUAdkBd LMpkegzsBzK8Meq1n7qCdnsVEzcV94EpDCqh9Z5nzNZPXHC6+RMCPIh4x4/WYQOd9oR/ vf4w== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcBCbuFJPATA+kftKp0qw8ivPBW3VtNfkxs+qNzPTUqAcK/WDAdL QnHlu/nBy4YYBw== X-Received: by 10.84.217.30 with SMTP id o30mr46566196pli.26.1496099495749; Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.24.63] (pl25298.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp. [133.232.153.210]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a78sm20564371pfk.122.2017.05.29.16.11.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 29 May 2017 16:11:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::241 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113259 Archived-At: > On May 30, 2017, at 4:31, Yuri Khan wrote: >=20 > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:52 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Looking into org.el shows that it binds [(meta left)] which seems to >>> not include the GUI key. >>=20 >> So isn't the above expected? There are no function keys on a TTY, >> they generate either ASCII characters or sequences of ASCII >> characters. >=20 > The surprising thing in this particular case is that M-left behaves > differently from ESC left. That is possible on a GUI Emacs, but the > expectation is that Meta and ESC have the same effect. Is there anything I can do about it ? It's confusing to use GUI emacs = (on mac only ?) and not be able to access expected shortcuts out of the = box. Jean-Christophe