From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: chad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:53:43 -0700 Message-ID: <6BC9F752-C724-4C3D-B2B9-088597A57C3E@gmail.com> References: <87r4s68rr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83A41E83-79C8-4490-966B-CD224041E840@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342889635 23658 80.91.229.3 (21 Jul 2012 16:53:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Pavlo Martynenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 21 18:53:55 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SscwF-0003sU-53 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 18:53:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47723 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SscwE-0003JJ-9y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:53:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SscwB-0003IL-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SscwA-00055r-Gv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:33184) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SscwA-00055X-BR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:53:50 -0400 Original-Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2so9717458pbb.0 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:53:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=QHrLCYJjqkxEFq/P+GaUKWASoLUtY2VurTR0eKyVwTI=; b=AwDphgaC8QZJxmibHodeuDMfoVCm+/IehlbhiKkpw4CTRcakzA4RVu99W71LMQ8Ynf fVbMCPeg2AsdsJw7kmz1oY4OdFMxeo9pelF/e4kEiFb/RZOPMX8iliaBXXO1NIG7IGje 8OoDdHH6BpwZ4NVQ9H12oxevL/8a8t9iAWB7i09sdUdEqh1N/Rf9/uVjl1xX34lCYrlN ez1w+wLDAmKk81U0BV6FgCvGsWUNcpjl42BnToxSzKSgZCo2IFeGt9wkE/gB9Kvx1TVS gyDDtubeTySA5EVCXTainZurgXXN/t3OdyLwRuGcQJgqRrGOppj9l2WMQ2zv07yul79O 9uGw== Original-Received: by 10.68.132.166 with SMTP id ov6mr23344453pbb.24.1342889628444; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.21] (c-98-247-148-125.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [98.247.148.125]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jz4sm6322728pbc.17.2012.07.21.09.53.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:53:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83A41E83-79C8-4490-966B-CD224041E840@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.160.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151794 Archived-At: On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:40 AM, Pavlo Martynenko wrote: > I can repeat it again. > NS port is ugly, and has problems with C-g, font rendering, modifier = keys, multiprocessing, networking. And I'll say again that these problems are not universal, and that = several people have been using the NS port heavily for years without = seeing any of these problems. > See the difference on https://vimeo.com/46028049. (look and feel only) If this video purports to show anything except that the mac port has gui = animations added to it, then I don't see it (the gui animations = themselves are a source of problems, as has been reported here twice). = Assuming that by `ugly' you mean 'lacks gui animations', I wonder if you = can provide a bug report or video describing problems with C-g, font = rendering, modifier keys, multiprocessing, or networking? There was a modifier keys issue reported to the list a few days ago that = only crops up in unusual remote desktop situations, if that's also your = problem, pmr mentioned that he already has a fix for it. Thanks, *Chad