From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Euro Sign and Bitstream Vera Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:09:04 +0100 Message-ID: <6A1F3865-DFD6-4988-8611-F3DA3F8D9D2D@Web.DE> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1170202167 27065 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2007 00:09:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: berberic@fmi.uni-passau.de Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 31 01:09:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HC32Q-0006mQ-Aw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:09:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HC32P-0004jD-JL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:09:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HC32C-0004j8-Tv for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:09:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HC32B-0004iw-Hl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:09:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HC32B-0004it-DY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HC32A-0000vD-UR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:09:07 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383DC577C8F6; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:09:06 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [84.245.186.208] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1HC32A-0004le-00; Wed, 31 Jan 2007 01:09:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Image-Url: http://homepage.mac.com/sparifankal/.cv/thumbs/me.thumbnail X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:40784 Archived-At: Am 30.01.2007 um 22:00 schrieb M G Berberich: > But U+0102 gives the right character =E2=80=9A=E2=82=AC=E2=80=98 = (EURO). Definitely not! A quite reliable source, from Kermit (utf8.txt), but =20 also an application, UnicodeChecker) explain: [=C4=82] 0102 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH BREVE [=E2=82=AC] 20AC EURO SIGN Have you checked what gucharmap tells? > >> This is a new feature in Unicode Emacs 23.0.0 =E2=80=93 and maybe = it's >> buggy. So you should consider to create a bug report. Then you'll >> have contact with those who make the software! >> >> Where do the fonts come from? Do they come from fontconfig (fc-cache/ >> fc-list) or is standard X11 serving them? > > I suppose from fontconfig, because they are anti-aliased, how do I > determine this? Anti-aliasing is not delivered from libfontconfig =E2=80=93 you have GTK = =20 enabled and GNOME in use! And it's actually libfreefont2 that =20 provides the calls and means to anti-aliasing, but then it's GTK+2 =20 that makes use of these capabilities. Libfontconfig exists to =20 determine a font by describing its features =E2=80=93 and also = alternatives/=20 substitutes, it's more of a human approach. Whether you are using fontconfig or usual X11 you can determine by =20 the syntax you use to describe the font. This one is fontconfig: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DRoman:weight=3D100 the next one is usual X11, so-called XFLD syntax: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-=20 iso10646-1 -- Mit friedvollen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen Pete "What is this talk of 'release?' Klingons do not make software =20 'releases.' Our software 'escapes,' leaving a bloody trail of =20 designers and quality assurance people in its wake."