Fair enough. On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 10:33:59 +0300 > > From: "Bozhidar Batsov" > > Cc: "Philip Kaludercic" , > > "Dmitry Gutov" , "Po Lu" , > > "Danny Freeman" , > > "Stefan Kangas" , > > "Emacs Devel" , > > "Manuel Uberti" > > > > And, I'll say it once more - in case this was missed in the conversations. Personal misgivings about > > the mechanics of Emacs's development aside, I think it's not prudent to keep growing its core, which > > is already huge. Obviously it's up to the Emacs developers to decide what to do, but I'd be moving > > more things into packages and bundling less things with Emacs. You might have seen this trend in > > some programming languages - e.g. Ruby has slimmed down its core a lot and this helped channel > > the efforts of the core team. > > Please don't go that way, and please don't bring that into this > (already troubles enough) thread. As you say, it is the prerogative > of the Emacs project to decide how lean-and-mean or how bloated it > wants to be. You are entitled to your differing opinions, but as you > ask us to leave the package management to you, please be fair and > leave the management of the Emacs project to us. It is unlikely that > we will change our minds just to accommodate your philosophy. > >