From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
Subject: RE: "Bringing GNU Emacs to Native Code" at the European Lisp Symposium
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <69d8b48d-bd09-41c1-a89d-ed76fe0284a4@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmkS31qJM=T6kNG4Osm=3fgAjnUR=8RXnbG0uzyqCUbd5g@mail.gmail.com>
1. It's a good paper, and the work sounds great.
2. FWIW, I don't agree with this prognostication
or point of view, from the paper, starting after
"since":
"The proposed compiler focuses on generating
code for the new lexically scoped dialect only,
since the dynamic one is considered obsolete
and close to deprecation."
Dunno who, besides perhaps Stefan, considers
dynamic binding in Elisp to be "obsolete and
close to deprecation". That would be a mistake.
IMO, Emacs Lisp should, like Common Lisp and for
even stronger reasons, continue to make use of
both dynamic and lexical binding. Each has its
uses in Elisp.
The "even stronger" comes from the particular
use, for users in particular, described by RMS
in his 1981 defense of it:
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html#SEC17
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html#SEC18
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-28 22:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-28 17:11 "Bringing GNU Emacs to Native Code" at the European Lisp Symposium Stefan Kangas
2020-04-28 19:25 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-28 19:35 ` Amin Bandali
2020-04-28 20:06 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-28 21:13 ` Amin Bandali
2020-04-29 3:24 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29 18:47 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-28 19:36 ` tomas
2020-04-28 22:00 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-04-28 22:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-28 22:51 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-29 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 12:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 14:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-28 22:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-29 10:55 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-29 15:35 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-29 18:57 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-29 19:29 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-30 1:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-30 3:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 2:21 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 13:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 20:32 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-02 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 9:48 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-03 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-03 4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-04 5:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-05 2:56 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-05 3:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 10:07 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-05-02 13:50 ` Stefan Monnier
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