From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Rename `eww' to `web' Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 14:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <69a04f21-3d9d-4ed1-8f4e-151afadd27d4@default> References: <8738s087wj.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo6mjv4s.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871u7gavwx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87obaj39sc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4btxkb7gw7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k3l72z81.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87obaixhkr.fsf@informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1372975149 15776 80.91.229.3 (4 Jul 2013 21:59:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 21:59:09 +0000 (UTC) To: Mathias Dahl , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 04 23:59:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UurYS-00016u-Va for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 23:59:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38081 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UurYS-0000Hq-Mq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 17:59:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UurYO-0000Hk-FA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 17:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UurYN-00031t-KE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 17:59:04 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:28592) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UurYN-00030X-DW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 17:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r64Lx0s9015328 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 4 Jul 2013 21:59:01 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r64LwxJh017484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 4 Jul 2013 21:59:00 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt104.oracle.com (abhmt104.oracle.com [141.146.116.56]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r64LwxQO014942; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 21:58:59 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161540 Archived-At: Hi Mathias, > When my `tumme' (now `image-dired') package was added to Emacs many > moons ago, the question about its name came up. Since I was the > author and the one who had picked the name ("tumme" means thumb, in > Swedish, so it was a good name for a package aimed at working with > image thumbnails), So you explicitly chose a name that had a meaning related to what the package and its commands are for. > and it also had been used by people for a while, I felt... something > (a small disturbance in the force, maybe)... when the name change > came up. Understandable. > However, the arguments back then was about the same as now; it is > beneficial if users can find commands by guessing Which was the same principle you applied, using "thumb" instead of "image". It's just that your version of "thumb" was a Swedish one. > and it was reasonable to assume that someone might try typing > "image" to see what nice commands there might exist for working > with images. Yes, "image" is good, as is "thumb". Depends what to put the emphasis on, since `image-dired' can do more than show thumbnail images. But either is helpful, IMO. And "tumme" is less helpful than either, unless one understands Swedish. > ... So, that was my little insignificant story... Not so insignificant - a couple of lessons there, I think.