From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: But then what are namespaces ? (was: A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master))) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 20:41:34 +0000 Message-ID: <6969a83a74d19fefcbea@heytings.org> References: <87a6jt7ilx.fsf@web.de> <87fstlzlaq.fsf@gmail.com> <20211001070242.GC16352@tuxteam.de> <1dd5e2c1f42bce50dc26@heytings.org> <6969a83a74f7bebe69f2@heytings.org> <6969a83a74b57d3d7839@heytings.org> <6969a83a7447c1963410@heytings.org> <6969a83a74ab69ebd555@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="W7KtJEllaj" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38643"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, Stefan Kangas , Dmitry Gutov , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 02 22:43:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mWlqg-0009ph-6q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 22:43:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34158 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWlqe-0004Wt-4m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 16:43:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36292) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWlpF-00034y-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 16:41:42 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:34114) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mWlpA-0003Ix-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Oct 2021 16:41:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1633207295; bh=+GYQnstgjxLjOhkHf/pcnj9KCzXbWlt2CxT84a+C4Jc=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=ZxsyoOgY+xTm8PCZKDrvvwq41w8WRg/sJi08V585dLV9ztg7HgumtqMkx1yLP9bhM dCEIcIhRZy4H2w/C/qayAb2VbJvq0rCb3PmhfJfwniSm1DD3n7NFszZRk8ewYDdoXW JrvOtsExc9AkZxtWSPQUuutMReIMzxRzV49sUUjCGciMgEJ+ySXt0Vzi6hvU4F+c0J bVMYvHT5qAQsrhVctA7ZnhXmELKrIIh3DwPynnAzg4SfliF3u+fVHJNyxnOJ/GqM0U wcmqkyQ+OCXBiuYaWZ175Xi9uvTsAn/xA+Gb9D3O/Y5azaL2ELxYbRjegUCHROkbje 4CoNzausQ8jYQ== In-Reply-To: Content-ID: <6969a83a74c51e152539@heytings.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.142.160.155; envelope-from=gregory@heytings.org; helo=heytings.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276080 Archived-At: --W7KtJEllaj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <6969a83a74704933ece8@heytings.org> >>> For me "namespaces" are about allowing the same thing to be invoked by= =20 >>> different names, depending on context. >>=20 >> This is not at all what namespaces are about.=C2=A0 This is aliasing. >=20 > Says you, right? Or is the definition of namespace rigidly set down=20 > somewhere? > You are free to use whatever definition you want, but aliasing is the=20 exact opposite of namespaces: namespaces allow you to use the same (short)= =20 identifier to denote different objects, aliasing allows you to use=20 different identifiers to denote the same object. --W7KtJEllaj--