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From: Alexander Shukaev <emacs@Alexander.Shukaev.name>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: CC Mode version number for Emacs 25.2
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 23:02:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <68e12441-2523-c226-17f5-7fd4dab7d36c@Alexander.Shukaev.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161222163427.GA10987@acm.fritz.box>

On 12/22/2016 05:34 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hello, Alexander.
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:08:21AM +0100, Alexander Shukaev wrote:
>> On 12/20/2016 12:13 AM, Alexander Shukaev wrote:
>>> On 12/18/2016 05:13 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> Hello, Emacs.
>
>>>> The version of CC Mode within Emacs 25.1 is 5.33.  This is unfortunate,
>>>> since that version is at a much earlier stage of development than the
>>>> standalone CC Mode release 5.33.
>
>>>> This conflict in the use of "5.33" has led to some confusion amongst
>>>> people reporting bugs.
>
>>>> I would thus like to change the version number in Emacs 25.2 to
>>>> "5.32.99", to minimise further confusion.  I think it would be best to
>>>> make an entry about this in NEWS, too.  Incidentally, the actual code in
>>>> CC Mode in the Emacs 25 has not changed since the realease of 25.1.
>
>>>> Does anybody have any objections to this renumbering?
>
>
>>> Hi,
>
>>> How to actually install this up-to-date version through 'package.el'?
>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alexander
>
>
>> Did my mail get lost or?
>
> Sorry, just got a bit distracted by other things for a day or two.
>
> CC Mode is not available through package.el.  There's either the version
> in an Emacs release (which is frozen at pretest time, typically several
> months before the release), or there's the stand alone version (which can
> be any age) available from http://cc-mode.sourceforge.net/.  The latest
> stand alone version, 5.33, was released in August 2016.
>
> Alternatively, you can use the head of the VCS repository either at
> savannah (for the entire Emacs version) or at sourceforge (for just CC
> Mode).
>

Hello Alan,

To me that looks like a major problem.  It means that I have three 
options to keep track of your package:

1.  Install it manually by copying corresponding '*.el' files into my 
Emacs configuration repository and shadow `load-path' on my own properly.
2.  Make your repository to be a submodule of mine (what does not work 
for me since you are using Mercurial, while I use Git) and shadow 
`load-path' on my own properly.
3.  Use `el-get' to do that management for me.

All of these I find unacceptable: #1 smells like 90's (or earlier), #2 
already mentioned, #3 requires another dependency that I don't want to 
deal with at the moment.  All of that brings up a simple question: why 
such a widespread and useful package is not packaged on MELPA and other 
popular online archives?

Kind regards,
Alexander



  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-07 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-18 16:13 CC Mode version number for Emacs 25.2 Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-18 16:29 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-12-18 16:40   ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-19  1:29     ` John Wiegley
2016-12-19 23:13 ` Alexander Shukaev
2016-12-21 23:08   ` Alexander Shukaev
2016-12-22 16:34     ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-01-07 22:02       ` Alexander Shukaev [this message]
2017-01-08  3:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-08  9:58         ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-01-08 13:39         ` Stefan Monnier

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