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From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>,
	Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	stefankangas@gmail.com
Cc: 43887@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43887: 28.0.50; in HELLO: Javanese (Jawa)  System.out.println("Sugeng siang!");
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:19:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6860EE8A-9858-4CE0-A77F-546BEE33A87E@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <courier.000000005F809389.000031C3@protected.rcdrun.com>

Eli is entirely right -- this file isn't a catalogue of how to say hello in different languages but a way to show off Emacs's character set capabilities. (Somewhat less impressive these days than when it was created, but nothing to be sneezed at.)

I therefore propose removal of the all-ASCII lines for: C (silly), Dutch, Emacs (not very useful for someone already looking at the buffer), Italian and Norwegian.

There are also way too many lines that only demonstrate the Latin-1 subset, of which we should keep only one or two: Danish, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Spanish, Swedish and Turkish.

Of these, I suggest keeping German (for the ß which is sometimes rendered ambiguously to share glyph with Greek β) and Spanish (for the non-alphabetic ¡), or maybe Estonian (smallest language of the bunch; I root for underdogs) or Finnish (for its glorious salvo of 'ä's).

Every humdrum line is one that displaces an exciting one. If this file has any relevance today, it should be the variety and wonder of human writing systems that Emacs can display.

(I also question the oversized copyright notice for this file but at least it's relegated to the bottom where nobody will read it. It feels like one of those corporate email signatures.)






  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-20  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-09 16:44 bug#43887: 28.0.50; in HELLO: Javanese (Jawa) System.out.println("Sugeng siang!"); Jean Louis
2020-10-10 19:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-10 19:58   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-10-11  9:04   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-11  9:09     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-11 12:54       ` Jean Louis
2020-10-11 13:47         ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-11 12:49     ` Jean Louis
2020-10-18 20:33       ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-18 21:29         ` Jean Louis
2020-10-19  3:46           ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-19  4:35             ` Drew Adams
2020-10-19  8:01               ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-19  6:21             ` Jean Louis
2020-10-19  7:59             ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-19  7:55           ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-19  8:19             ` Jean Louis
2020-10-19 14:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-19 20:31               ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-20  2:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-20 18:18                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21  4:39                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-19  9:46         ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19 14:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-19 14:57             ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19 15:08               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-19 15:17                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19 20:30               ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-20  9:37                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-20 13:25                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20 18:23                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21  9:56                     ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-21  6:53                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21  7:37                     ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-21  8:30                       ` Jean Louis
2020-10-21 10:29                         ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-21 11:24                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-21 11:41                             ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-21 14:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 15:06                                 ` arthur miller
2020-10-21 15:35                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-21 17:45                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 18:11                           ` Jean Louis
2020-10-21 17:34                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21  8:24                     ` Jean Louis
2020-10-21 10:19                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-21 17:35                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 18:06                         ` Jean Louis
2020-10-21 20:13                   ` Tomas Nordin
2020-10-22  6:58                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-22  8:48                       ` Jean Louis
2020-10-22 20:10                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-19 15:41           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-19 16:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-19 16:12               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-19 16:34                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-19 17:10                   ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-10-19 16:25               ` Jean Louis
2020-10-19 16:13           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-20  9:19 ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2020-10-20 12:05   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-20 12:16     ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-20 13:53     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-20 14:55       ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-20 18:20   ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 15:32     ` Mattias Engdegård

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