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Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:24:59 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 09TMKZtI194667; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:22:58 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34cwuq9ygt-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:22:58 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 09TMMu3c032032; Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:22:58 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5056.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9789 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010290153 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9789 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 lowpriorityscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010290152 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192011 Archived-At: > That's not what I see here, FWIW. >=20 > - fixed-pitch uses "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono" > - fixed-pitch-serif uses "Courier 10 Pitch" >=20 > Could this be Windows specific? Dunno. Where do you see which font it uses, like that? M-x customize-face, for me, has all attributes unchecked except for Font Family, and that's `Monospace' and `Monospace Serif'. And `describe-face' likewise. And the definitions in faces.el have only :family, with the same "Monospace" and "Monospace Serif" values. In faces.el, searching for "Monospace", I see that option `face-font-family-alternatives' maps `purecopy' over some lists of strings ("Monospace" "courier" "fixed") ("Monospace Serif" "Courier 10 Pitch" ...)... ;; In the absence of Fontconfig support, Monospace and Sans Serif are ;; unavailable, and we fall back on the courier and helv families, ;; which are generally available. ;; Monospace Serif is an Emacs invention, intended to work around ;; portability problems when using Courier. It should work well ;; when combined with Monospaced and with other standard fonts. ;; One of its uses is for 'tex-verbatim' and 'Info-quoted' faces, ;; so the result must be different from the default face's font, ;; and must be monospaced. For 'tex-verbatim', it is desirable ;; that the font really is a Serif font, so as to look like ;; TeX's 'verbatim'. Not that I understand any of this. But clearly the one with the serifs is `fixed-pitch' (on MS Windows 10, here).