Re: font handling broken in cvs emacs --with-ns (MacOS X)

[Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@web.de>]

Am 04.01.2009 um 23:22 schrieb B Smith-Mannschott:

>> Documentation clearly states that after an update you need to do a  
>> 'make
>> bootstrap' unless you wish to have a GNU mess.
>>
>>>    make install
>
> I do it this way because it works.

If your way would work, then you would not need to consider writing a  
bug report ...

> And I don't need the build to be fast.

A bootstrap built build is not faster – it just has up-to-date ELC  
files.

> It would be different if I were hacking on emacs myself because
> the long edit-compile-run cycle would be terrible.

There are experienced GNU Emacs developers who take that burden from  
you! And this makes the difference: you're not using the stable GNU  
Emacs 22.3 (also in Carbon available) but the not yet released GNU  
Emacs 23.0.60 *from CVS*. And therefore building it needs 'make  
bootstrap.'

> I found the reference to make bootstrap in INSTALL.CVS (thanks grep).
> I had been reading INSTALL, which doesn't breathe a word of it.
> Scrubbing the source directory seems to force a make bootstrap, which
> is good. If I find I need emacs to build faster, then I'll look into
> INSTALL.CVS more carefully.

You're mixing up a few things! In a regular and stable GNU Emacs  
release you won't see the INSTALL.CVS file. Does this help?

>> You don't need that Carbon stuff! Just choose from the Options  
>> menu "Set
>> Default Font…"! Isn't it clearly documented?
>
> I may have missed it among emacs' *1.9 million words* of  
> documentation. ;-)

Well, maybe you came too late to Emacs.app, because some weeks ago it  
has lost from the Help menu an entry to read the part on Emacs.app.  
Right now you can easily find in the Emacs node one on

	* Mac OS / GNUstep::    Using Emacs under Mac OS and GNUstep.

>
> Is all that gets written. still, it's obviously storing the setting
> somewhere, because the change I made is maintained across restarts of
> emacs...
>
> ~/Library/Preferences/org.gnu.Emacs.plist
>
> Fascinating. I see a lot of other stuff here too. settings for
> org-mode, for example. Does Emacs.app write all customizations here
> instead of custom.el?

I don't think so. Only its "options" are saved in this XML file. (The  
defaults command or Property List Editor also work on this file.)

> How will that jive with my attempts to keep a
> single emacs configuration (in version control) across my Mac and
> Linux machines?


Well, I make most of my changes into a *system* of init files. From  
~/.emacs particular init and customisation files are read, mostly  
depending on emacs-major-number and window-system.

--
Greetings

   Pete

What is this talk of 'release?' Klingons do not make software  
'releases.'  Our software 'escapes,' leaving a bloody trail of  
designers and quality assurance people in its wake.