From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: using use-package Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <67cb463e-41f6-4f37-91ee-15d0fdb5ba9f@googlegroups.com> References: <20150805055619.13567.17B26335@ahiker.mooo.com> <17131863-cbb8-4a85-8470-490fe9a0c0d4@googlegroups.com> <66dceb24-5fef-4316-8c8b-e9a3e62b0fb8@googlegroups.com> <3594e2c6-bd02-412f-98df-9dd0f145277a@googlegroups.com> <01b4d996-aad3-44ff-a580-7950b25b7dc8@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439402119 21488 80.91.229.3 (12 Aug 2015 17:55:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:55:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 12 19:55:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPaFB-00020v-OT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:55:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39743 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPaFB-000105-5x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:55:17 -0400 X-Received: by 10.107.8.71 with SMTP id 68mr2687826ioi.30.1439401925121; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:52:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.62.68 with SMTP id w4mr366070igr.12.1439401925103; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!pg9no9246640igb.0!news-out.google.com!nt1ni6679igb.0!nntp.google.com!se8no2783060igc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=117.195.62.55; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 117.195.62.55 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:52:05 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:214229 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106513 Archived-At: On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 11:20:15 AM UTC+5:30, John Wiegley wrote: > >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: > > IOW, in many cases, it would be better for people to report the problem as a > > bug rather than to reach for use-package. > > The idea that use-package will never make it into core because "package > authors should do things a better way" strikes me as a very odd argument. > use-package lets me write modular code to solve every configuration problem I > run into; am I really supposed to not do this, because things should ideally > be better than they are? That's a bit like saying we shouldn't have locks on > our doors, because it downplays a deeper issue: that we should convince people > not to steal. A more emacsish analogy: Q: Should one indent C programs like this ? Or this ? Answer1 : Sensible people only use gnu-style Answer2 : Choose what you like. Set it in c-default-style Which answer is more in the spirit of emacs?