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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com, 1947@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#1947: 23.0.60; Please document use of `dired' with an explicit file list
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 11:30:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <67F360FF8E7F49E582A886209C30DC46@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8362nani2p.fsf@gnu.org>

> > This is something that ordinary users should be made aware 
> > of.  Simply mentioning it in the doc string of `dired' is
> > not sufficient.
> 
> I disagree.  Users are supposed to read _both_ doc strings and the
> manual.  Therefore, something mentioned in the doc string does not
> necessarily has to be described in the manual as well,

Irrelevant:

* No one said anything about what users are "supposed to do".

* No one argued that either doc strings or the manual is a substitute for the
other.

* No one said that everything that is mentioned in any doc string "necessarily"
needs to be described also in the manual.

Your arguments are facile, but you are arguing against a straw man.

It's about _this_ particular feature, whose description, in passing, in the
`dired' doc string has proven to be insufficient to make users aware of this
very useful feature.

> especially if it's an obscure feature used in special situations.

Not relevant here.  This is a very useful, although relatively unknown, feature.
This feature is not obscure by its nature; it is simply not known well enough.
This bug report is about obviating some of that ignorance.

> The manual is for describing things better, in more easily readable
> form, without restrictions of doc string format.  But it doesn't have
> to tell everything.

Irrelevant; straw man.  No one said the manual has "to tell everything".

Speak not in useless generalities, please.  Speak to _this_ bug report; speak
about the documentation of _this_ Dired feature.






  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-10 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-18 18:44 bug#1947: 23.0.60; Please document use of `dired' with an explicit file list Drew Adams
2009-01-20  3:20 ` Kevin Rodgers
2011-07-10 14:58   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-10 17:36     ` Drew Adams
2011-07-10 17:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-10 18:30         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2011-07-10 18:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-10 20:07             ` Drew Adams

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