From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Variable-width font indentation Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 17:30:24 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <673d6612-f0d4-5d34-c6ee-a276dbba3068@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87inaiss6l.fsf@web.de> <6FCF6ACA-4F29-4B6B-BE9D-D7130C6E9495@gnu.org> <87fu5moe4c.fsf@web.de> <877eqyocro.fsf@web.de> <83zi3uz4nb.fsf@gnu.org> <0b1dd3fa-e0b0-ed20-a256-dd92d1c1826f@dancol.org> <8bc3c4c7-dfc7-987a-95e7-bd309e2326c6@cs.ucla.edu> <03118DC0-39DA-4AB5-980E-A33809B9A5EE@raeburn.org> <83vaeas8uz.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgf6s3aa.fsf@gnu.org> <8b94336f-1bb4-84ab-263b-af5ba40bfca4@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520299721 2721 195.159.176.226 (6 Mar 2018 01:28:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 01:28:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit-Claudel?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 06 02:28:37 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1et1P5-0007y4-Ph for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2018 02:28:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52432 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1et1R8-0006eE-Ae for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:30:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57673) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1et1R2-0006df-Ah for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:30:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1et1Qx-00069o-DL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:30:32 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:59456) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1et1Qx-00068e-76 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:30:27 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A99161645; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 17:30:25 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id IacMzZ0Wp_u8; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 17:30:24 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE10161668; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 17:30:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 0AyrMWopAKqG; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 17:30:24 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74051161645; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 17:30:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223314 Archived-At: On 03/05/2018 05:06 PM, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel wrote: > In variable-pitch mode, each new indentation level has a slightly-diffe= rent width, instead of a regular progression of 4 spaces (in Python) and = 2 spaces (in Elisp) at each level. That's fine. Although it's only a small thing, to me it's even a small=20 plus, as having every indent level be the same number of pixels=20 unnaturally focuses the reader on a distracting regularity that is not=20 intrinsic to the code. > Beyond this, there's the problem of inline line-up spaces. Yes, for ASCII art I doubt whether any simple automated heuristic would=20 work unaided. ASCII art is typically ugly and hard-to-read even in a=20 fixed-width font, so it's not much of a loss if it's rendered poorly. If=20 there's really a need for it I suppose we could let users hint to Emacs=20 to switch to a fixed-width font just for the art; that'd be good enough.