From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:39:13 +0900 Message-ID: <673E6311-3192-46B9-A058-171550B4F558@icloud.com> References: <87h7xe79l7.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xdbne4.fsf@yahoo.com> <87lfmput2r.fsf@pm.me> <878siorvl7.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="33652"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , ndame , theothornhill@pm.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 04:41:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRoH9-0008fY-RH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 04:41:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47720 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRoH8-0006O4-SE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:41:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56656) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRoFi-0004N5-2y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:39:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRoFY-000191-Hy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:39:37 -0400 Original-Received: from pv50p00im-ztdg10021801.me.com ([17.58.6.56]:58219) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRoFQ-0000l3-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 22:39:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=1a1hai; t=1587695959; bh=CaucoEf6tFnjkgbrJ07YUuxxjVG2rGjDyqqkmCn6mXE=; h=Content-Type:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=oi2yUgY+YS/YLCzgsbh8LaBwci6ipp+l7nmeyFkuhbL2Rh59HTVMIVgXtsXu/Ltut mjE7cyjA6vspdQMVLwptorTn/2Dari16F4Eh7vDp3F8FCB8fh1iCJcBQOixguYACVb A5Ma/onE0FSocHSu5CpdzuHwfcO/wgN1SLupKUQxKAJO85UHFJvISSfvJc7US9n7tl lGT1XzmyKWoHroonhakZ0VY25+Y0ccE53Q6T1vxyrApAvdfhRyEwONPkeWdNunV6yp N8UTTsgQu8rb42rr4Gr/QEK1MnkWpiekk9jnxwvogLohXWGb+1v4+wrT/JMHU/v3ch hvFzaOTRw+NGA== Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [1.230.108.64]) by pv50p00im-ztdg10021801.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 18215360E85; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 02:39:17 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.138, 18.0.676 definitions=2020-04-23_19:2020-04-23, 2020-04-23 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=345 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2002250000 definitions=main-2004240016 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=17.58.6.56; envelope-from=pcr910303@icloud.com; helo=pv50p00im-ztdg10021801.me.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/23 22:39:20 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Received-From: 17.58.6.56 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247655 Archived-At: Richard Stallman 작성: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > >> IIRC, Tide uses tsserver, and people say it works quite well. > > What kind of thing is tsserver? The word "server" has multiple meanings; > in what sense is tsserver a "server"? It’s a LSP server that responds requests from editors with information about types of identifiers, code completion, actions, etc... > Would it run on the same machine you are editing on, or another machine? It usually runs on the same machine that the codebase exists. > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) > Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)