From: LanX <lanx.perl@googlemail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: About Emacs Modernisation Project
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:22:40 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <66c5242b-d254-4646-9537-6c669c6616bb@d12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvocfuk065.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org
> > I think Emacs Lisp actually
> > encourages the production of a lot of little, useful hacks.
>
> Indeed. But lexical scoping and name spaces wouldn't make any
> difference in this respect.
But the lack of namespaces leads to very long names which IMHO
irritate newbies.
At least it did irritate me at the time to find out that I need to
type "M-x font-lock-fontify-buffer" to get highlighting, and it still
irritates others when I explain to do so.
Snippets manipulating different aspects of font-lock would look less
intimidating, without the need to repeat "font-lock-" 20 times.
And something like customize-group NAME-SPACE wouldn't need to list
the prefix NAME-SPACE-... for each option.
IMHO the option to use shorter identifiers for functions and variables
would increase the acceptance of elisp and emacs!
You might think that it's only a matter of getting used to, but maybe
you should better ask the folks who turned away maybe thinking that a
system with >20 char identifiers is far too complicated...
When manipulating the DOM of a browser with JS I have standard
mechanisms to considerately shorten the path to a variable or
function.
Are there any in eLisp?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-01 23:22 UTC|newest]
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2010-05-31 15:44 ` About Emacs Modernisation Project Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <0e994fe3-6dde-449f-879d-6701c7a195a9@e28g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>
2010-05-31 19:41 ` Alessandro Piras
[not found] ` <87iq63wsvt.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com>
2010-06-01 0:06 ` LanX
2010-06-01 8:44 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 11:19 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:56 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 6:17 ` Xah Lee
[not found] ` <c41c63c0-b934-442d-8385-1abff6ab9b0b@s41g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-01 0:40 ` Alessandro Piras
2010-06-02 6:07 ` Xah Lee
[not found] ` <87ljazofkn.fsf@rapttech.com.au>
2010-05-31 23:33 ` LanX
2010-06-01 10:28 ` Helmut Eller
2010-06-01 11:27 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:29 ` Helmut Eller
2010-06-01 12:55 ` LanX
2010-06-01 12:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 12:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 17:05 ` Xah Lee
2010-06-02 17:50 ` Helmut Eller
[not found] ` <87r5krh3e0.fsf@unm.edu>
2010-06-01 8:40 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-01 17:34 ` rustom
2010-06-02 12:47 ` B. T. Raven
2010-06-02 17:20 ` rustom
2010-06-01 19:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 23:22 ` LanX [this message]
[not found] ` <slrni0b8nm.9k6.bergv@u00.math.uiuc.edu>
2010-06-02 11:39 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <e73e123d-3f0c-4a6f-bbac-b91fb71bf07d@f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>
2010-06-03 9:26 ` Emulating namespaces Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-03 15:33 ` LanX
2010-06-03 17:41 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <87mxvegz12.fsf@unm.edu>
2010-06-01 23:36 ` About Emacs Modernisation Project Pascal J. Bourguignon
2010-06-02 5:58 ` Evans Winner
2010-06-04 18:33 ` Joseph Brenner
2010-06-05 2:55 ` Tim X
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